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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

No.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

Peatland restoration is funded from the rural affairs budget, so Mairi Gougeon is responsible for the budget line that is associated with that. I am looking at some of the lines—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

Yes. It is monitored by SEPA.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

Can we confirm that in writing to the committee?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

I was concerned.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

No, because the free allocations militate against that. I am talking about the particular instrument that we are discussing today, which is designed to close a loophole through which operators who have ceased production would benefit from a scheme in which they would have free allocations that would not be used by the operation.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

I will not comment any more on Jim Ratcliffe’s comments—he has a particular view and he has made that clear to the UK Government and in the press.

The ETS was set up with a provision for those high-emitting sectors to have free allocations. There was an acknowledgement that they should have free allocations, because there will always be some sectors that find it harder to decarbonise than others do. The ETS is there to ensure that there is not carbon leakage. That is all I really have to say on that. If we did not have systems like that in place and there were no free allocations, we would offshore our emissions.

The purpose of the instrument is to ensure that companies do not profit from the ETS when they are not operating.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

We have not carried out a full impact assessment, because there is no regulatory provision for that to be done. The impact of changes to permanent cessation rules on businesses was published in November 2024 in an analytical annex to the initial authority response to the free allocation review consultation. You will be able to find the detail of the analysis in that document.

The main purpose of the instrument is to ensure that plants and operations that cease production do not have a valuable free allocation once the plant is no longer operational. There has been a lot of criticism of the potential for that situation to occur, as it would mean that operators that cease operations could profit from the free allocation. There has been a lot of criticism of that loophole in wider society and, indeed, in the media.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

I am basing that on the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government’s projections. The cabinet secretary has said that we are working to fully reduce the £160 million by the end of this financial year.

As far as ScotWind funding is concerned, that is a discussion that we had ahead of the budget. None of us wanted to use it for anything other than investing in legacy infrastructure, improving the lives of people in Scotland, investing in long-term projects, reducing our emissions and ensuring just transition—all the things that I have mentioned. The assumed usage of £424 million has reduced to £160 million, and we are working to reduce it fully by the end of this financial year—

It says “the financial year” in my notes. Does that mean this financial year?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

I think that you are referring to the global climate emergency programme board.