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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Alternative Pathways to Primary Care

Meeting date: 15 March 2022

Gillian Martin

That brings us to the end of questions for our second panel. I thank Dr Graeme Marshall and Alison Keir for their time and for all the information that they have given us. It has been very helpful.

At our next meeting, on 22 March, the committee will continue to take evidence in our inquiry into alternative pathways to primary care.

12:13 Meeting continued in private until 12:36.  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Alternative Pathways to Primary Care

Meeting date: 15 March 2022

Gillian Martin

Would you like Clare Morrison to answer first?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Alternative Pathways to Primary Care

Meeting date: 15 March 2022

Gillian Martin

Our second item is two evidence sessions as part of our inquiry into alternative pathways to primary care.

We will hear from two panels of witnesses from organisations that represent a range of national health service primary care services in community settings and multidisciplinary teams in general practices. All our witnesses are participating remotely, as are a number of our MSP colleagues.

For our first panel, I welcome Clare Morrison, who is the director for Scotland at the Royal Pharmaceutical Society; Julie Mosgrove, who is vice-chair of Optometry Scotland; Harjit Sandhu, who is managing director of the National Community Hearing Association Scotland; and Jess Sussmann, who is policy lead at the Royal College of Psychiatrists in Scotland.

One of the reasons why we decided to have the inquiry was to draw attention to some of the services to which people could be directed, or could self-direct, to get specific primary care. Anecdotally, we hear that there is not a lot of public awareness about what is out there, so that will be my first line of questioning.

I am interested to hear the witnesses’ perspectives on how much difficulty or success there has been in shifting away from the traditional view that people should go to their general practitioner for absolutely everything. The pathways system has been in train for quite a few years. How successful has it been and what is the public awareness of it like? That question goes first to Clare Morrison.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Alternative Pathways to Primary Care

Meeting date: 15 March 2022

Gillian Martin

Thank you. You have all individually raised some points that I am interested in following up. First, Harjit Sandhu spoke about home care. That is something that I hear about from constituents. In the distant past, they were able to have home visits from GPs. It was a fairly regular thing, but it is a very irregular thing now. It has to be quite a serious situation for that to happen.

You mentioned home visits as something that is part of your normal practice. I do not think that people are aware that they could have those alternative pathways coming into their homes. Will you expand on that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Alternative Pathways to Primary Care

Meeting date: 15 March 2022

Gillian Martin

I will bring in a couple of my colleagues. Stephanie Callaghan wants to ask about the diabetes aspect that Emma Harper mentioned.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Alternative Pathways to Primary Care

Meeting date: 15 March 2022

Gillian Martin

We will go to Julie Mosgrove first, as she was mentioned.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Alternative Pathways to Primary Care

Meeting date: 15 March 2022

Gillian Martin

I know that you also wanted to come in on the issue of Near Me, which was raised in response to Sandesh Gulhane’s question.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Alternative Pathways to Primary Care

Meeting date: 15 March 2022

Gillian Martin

Gillian Mackay has offered you the opportunity for a recruitment drive right now.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Alternative Pathways to Primary Care

Meeting date: 15 March 2022

Gillian Martin

My heavy hint has worked. I will bring in Clare Morrison first.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Alternative Pathways to Primary Care

Meeting date: 15 March 2022

Gillian Martin

Okay—I will bring in Sue Webber.

It appears that we cannot hear Sue Webber, and I do not think that she is muted, so I wonder whether there is an issue. I think that Sue’s picture has frozen.

Can you rejoin the meeting, and I will come back to you, Sue? I ask broadcasting to get in touch with you to sort out the technical problems. We will move on, and I will come back to Sue’s question on workforce planning once she is back.