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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 June 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

There will be an opportunity to consider the content of the secondary legislation when it comes before us. You say that there is a danger of losing momentum, but given that secondary legislation will come out of the co-design process and come back to Parliament, where is the real danger? Every aspect of the secondary legislation will go through scrutiny and consultation processes.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Is the nervousness not just because the process is a new way of doing things that actually includes the public more?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

As no other colleagues have indicated that they have any more questions to ask, I thank the three panellists for their time this morning, and I suspend the meeting to allow a changeover of witnesses.

11:01 Meeting suspended.  

11:11 On resuming—  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

We move to our next theme, which is ethical commissioning, and Emma Harper will lead the questioning.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

I want to pick up on something. You asserted that there will be a lack of opportunity for scrutiny by this committee of the bill and its subsequent secondary legislation. How did you come to that view?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

My question to you is whether you agree that the co-design element, which will inform the detail of the secondary legislation, is the opposite of a top-down approach, given that COSLA will be among those who are asked for their input.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Jackie, I reiterate that, if any member asks a question and you wish to answer but have not been asked directly, you can put an R in the chat box. I can see that and will bring you in. I am conscious that, when we have someone online, we want to ensure that they have ample opportunity to contribute.

We will move on to the next theme, which will be led by Carol Mochan.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

We must wrap up now, as we are rapidly running out of time. I thank the witnesses for their time this morning—they have been very helpful. At our next meeting, the committee will continue its scrutiny of the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill with two more evidence-taking sessions.

I now close the meeting.

Meeting closed at 12:44.  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Is that not about the accountability of what happens in those assets?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Gillian Martin

I have a couple of questions on that point. You mentioned the countries where there is an expectation of and a reliance on family care. Do those countries give any kind of financial support to those carers, as we do with the carers allowance? Are those families expected to just get on with it, or is there a variation of the kind of support that is provided here?