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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
John Mason
Do you think that the advocacy figure might be a bit on the low side?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
John Mason
That suggests that everybody should be a charity, as we are talking about with fostering. Would that be an answer?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
John Mason
Ms O’Brien, you said that you wanted to talk about profit, and now is your chance. Your submission says a few things. It says:
“organisations should not profiteer from children’s care”.
It also says:
“The ability for a Minister to put a profit limitation requirement on services could have catastrophic impact on our ability to deliver high quality ... care”.
Do you want to expand on that?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
John Mason
Do you accept that we cannot do that in legislation? That comes down to the culture and the relationships that you were talking about earlier, but the committee is looking at legislation.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
John Mason
Do you see the fact that we are dealing with fostering agencies differently from residential care as a problem, or is that okay?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
John Mason
You wanted to come back in, Mr Dunlop.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
John Mason
I think that we are in danger of going over the same ground of discussing the culture as opposed to the legislation.
I want to come back to fostering. Ms Williams, you say in your submission that the average payment is £13,579 and that it varies by £34,696. It sounds as if, at the top end, it is quite a lot, but the average is—
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
John Mason
The payments vary a lot and you would like there to be a standard rate.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
John Mason
My next question is about the idea that fostering agencies should be charities, which is similar but slightly different to saying that they should not make profits. Mr Forde, do you have any thoughts about that? Is it right to treat them differently?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2025
John Mason
Finally, on the financial memorandum as a whole, it looks as though the costs will build up and then settle down at about £20 million to £23 million per year in 2029-30. I would be interested in your thoughts. About a third of that would cover the extension of aftercare, a third would be for advocacy and a third would be for the children’s hearings system, which I think primarily means paying the chairs more. Are those figures realistic or are any of them too low?