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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 5 October 2021

John Mason

I am in favour of the prudential framework as well. Do we have any indication from Westminster that it would be willing to discuss that kind of thing when the fiscal framework is reviewed?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 5 October 2021

John Mason

Good morning, cabinet secretary. There are many areas to discuss, but I want to go back to the issue of inflation, which has already been mentioned.

We have had some discussion with our advisers about short-term inflation. That could include, for example, people with savings rushing out to buy the same kind of car, which would leading to a shortage of such cars and prices going up. Presumably, though, that sort of thing would come down. Something like the gas price, however, could stay higher for longer. Moreover, with wages, could a shortage of staff inevitably lead to inflation? If so, what impact would that have on Scotland and the Scottish budget? After all, if hotels and shops start paying higher wages, we will have to pay nurses and everyone else higher wages, too. Do you feel that inflation is a major problem or is it, in fact, quite minor?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 5 October 2021

John Mason

I move to the part of the fiscal framework outturn report on social security. I confess that I find some of it quite complex, but if I understand the figures correctly, the forecast in the 2020 budget was an expenditure of roughly £3.212 billion and the outturn was roughly £3.262 billion—around £49 million more. Many changes have happened—we have not taken on some things quite as quickly as we had hoped, and Covid must have had an impact. Is it too early to say what is happening with the social security system, or do you think that we will struggle to stay within our social security budget?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 5 October 2021

John Mason

There is a lot in there that we could explore further. However, I will move on to the other point that I want to raise, which is about the recent national insurance increase at Westminster. I believe that it is to be called the health and social care levy. Are we clear about exactly what Scotland will get from that or how it will work for us?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

John Mason

There is a lot in there. My first question is for Professor Dye. You mentioned people who could not be vaccinated. It has been suggested to us that that is fewer than one in 1,000 people. Is that about right?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

John Mason

Other members might have follow-on questions on that point.

France, which has been mentioned a few times as a comparator, seems to have a much wider scheme in the sense that people need to have a certificate for many more services. Does that make a difference? Can we be more relaxed because we are saying that our scheme is for only a very small number of high-risk, luxury items? Is the advantage of France’s wider scheme that it has become more widely accepted? I will put that question to Professor Dye, because he is in France.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

John Mason

Thank you; that was helpful. If we did not have vaccination certificates, what would we need to do? For example, if we were not to have certificates, would we just close all nightclubs at midnight? If the attendance limit for events was 10,000, would we put a limit of 10,000 on all crowds?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

John Mason

I will leave it at that, just now.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

John Mason

Professor Reicher mentioned conscientious objection. I am interested in how that might work. Can somebody simply say that they object to vaccination passports and therefore will not get one? If so, should they still be excluded from going to a big football match or a nightclub or that kind of thing, or should they be counted as exempt, just like somebody who is medically exempt?

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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Vaccination Certification

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

John Mason

That leads me to my final question, which I will put to Professor Drury. Although the intention of the Government and the Parliament is that certification would be needed only for nightclubs, big crowds and so on, I presume that employers and other venues could use the system as part of their entry requirements. Would that be a good thing or a bad thing? Are there risks in that?