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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Framework for Tax

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

John Mason

Can we have a range at least? I think that most parties in the Parliament are against council tax, so we will need a new tax, which will need primary legislation. I presume that that cannot happen before the next election, but what is in the far distance? Will we definitely have something within 10 years?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Framework for Tax

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

John Mason

I am not arguing against any of that. It is 31 years since we had the last revaluation of council tax, and quite a lot of groundwork has been done over the past 31 years. If it is going to be, say, 10 years before we get a replacement tax, does that mean that we need a revaluation in the meantime? As I see it, some properties—perhaps in the better-off areas—have gone up in value, say, 10 times since 1991. In a poorer area such as mine, property prices have gone up a lot less, which suggests that, in a poor area, my constituents are paying more council tax than they should, and that people in richer areas are paying less than they should. If it is going to take a long time, should we not have a revaluation in the meantime?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Framework for Tax

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

John Mason

Thank you.

On a different subject, the plan was to assign part of VAT, but there have been practical problems with that. If I am not mistaken, one reason for the assignment approach was that the European Union would not allow us to vary VAT within the UK while we were in the EU. I assume that that constraint is now removed, so what is the Government’s position on VAT? Are we discussing it with the UK? Where are we going with it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Framework for Tax

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

John Mason

I have one final point. In some ways, you are saying that the process for devolution of tax, like national insurance or income tax, over which we already have partial control, takes a long time with Westminster. One might imagine that, from Westminster’s point of view, it might be cleaner just to give us a completely new tax. That would not affect Westminster, whereas everything that we do on income tax does affect it. I do not know—it is just a thought, but perhaps Westminster would be willing to consider that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Framework for Tax

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

John Mason

You mentioned national insurance. I do not know how far ahead the Government has thought about what it would do if it got national insurance and fuller control over income tax. I would like the two to be combined in a much simpler system. Has the Government done work on that or is that too far down the road?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Framework for Tax

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

John Mason

Thank you, convener—it is unusual for me to come in second; that is nice for a change.

The minister mentioned that council tax reform will be considered by a citizens assembly. Can I press you a little for a timescale? What is the soonest date when we could have a replacement tax in place?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Framework for Tax

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

John Mason

Can you clarify one point? I had not realised that, if we were to have a new tax—I will stick with my example of a whisky production tax—Westminster would have to legislate on that first.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

John Mason

We have already touched on a number of issues, but I just note—this has been said already—that this week has perhaps been one of the worst that we have had, and the hospitals seem to be absolutely full. However, evidence that we have received suggests that non-Covid conditions have really suffered over the past two years. Should our focus now move from Covid to non-Covid conditions? Has that already happened or is it still to happen?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

John Mason

More constituents have been on at me about not having access to a dentist than have been on at me about not having access to a GP or probably any other service. We say to people that, if they cannot get a dentist in Baillieston, for example, they should try ones in Shettleston, but they say that they have tried all the dentists in the area and that none of them will take them. What should I say to those constituents?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

John Mason

I read that two months’ worth of testing capacity will be kept in case of another uptick. Presumably, however, the kits go out of date after a while and will have to be thrown out. How often will we—or the Government—have to keep replenishing them?