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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

I want to continue for a minute on the idea, which I get, that local outcomes should be valid for national outcomes. We have a problem in that the third sector tends to come to us and say, “If it is happening in Grampian, it should be happening in Strathclyde,” or whatever. That is especially true in health—I realise that you folk are not focused on that—so, if there is a specialist nurse for something in NHS Tayside, we hear that there should be a specialist nurse in NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde. How do we square that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

Thank you. I want to move on to something else. One or two people have said to us that the public does not get excited about the national performance framework, which is pretty obvious. Is that important? Linked to that is the suggestion that we rename it to something such as the national wellbeing framework. Do you have any thoughts on that? Would renaming it and putting “wellbeing” in make a difference?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

I want to ask you specifically about Fife. Am I right in saying that you have a Fife plan?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

Do you want to come in, Mirren Kelly? Is that a typical picture across the country?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

In your paper, you say that bodies are self-selecting outcomes. Can you expand on that, and do you think that that should change?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

How do the more local plans tie in with the national performance framework? Is it your argument that all the things that are in the national performance framework are in the local plan, even though you might not use the language of the national performance framework? We have heard that from a number of organisations, which say that the thinking is there and is implicit, but that they do not use the language of the national performance framework.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

Tim Kendrick, do you have any thoughts on the budget and the national performance framework?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

It is in the same area. At one of our workshops in Glasgow, the comment was made that the NPF should be more practical and not so aspirational. You are in that space as well. Is the NPF too vague? Oxfam made the comment that there is a lack of time-bound commitments.

I am struggling with this a bit. I see the NPF as being aspirational, which I think is good, but maybe it should not be just aspirational. Does it need to be more than that, or is there a danger that we would just end up with a set of rules if it said that A, B, C and D must be done by 31 December?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

Keith Robson, in your paper, you talk about a national impact framework, which appears to be an attempt to tie the national performance framework and the sustainable development goals together. Is that correct?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Performance Framework: Ambitions into Action

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

John Mason

It is the third-last paragraph. You say:

“the SFC has committed to working collaboratively with the sector and key stakeholders to develop a new overarching National Impact Framework ... to ensure greater alignment”.