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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

John Mason

You also said that there was a Barnett guarantee last year. We knew the minimum that we were going to get. What is the worst case scenario? Is it that all of the extra UK funding would be just a reallocation of existing funding and we would not get any consequentials?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

John Mason

So the UK budget and spending review have an impact on 2021-22 as well as on 2022-23.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform and Christie Commission

Meeting date: 9 November 2021

John Mason

The discussion has been very interesting and has covered a lot of ground; I realise that I am the last questioner.

Coming from an accounting background, I want to pin down some numbers, especially with Professor Mitchell. You said that we should be bolder, so I was going to ask whether we should, for example, take 10 per cent off the hospital budget and put it into primary care. However, you then said that we can do things only incrementally. Would it be useful to have some fixed concept over the next few years, whereby we give, say, 1 per cent less than we might have to secondary hospital care and 1 per cent—or the equivalent figure—more to primary care? That might give us something solid that we as a committee could agree on and then put to Parliament. After all, as everyone has pointed out, we have not made the progress that we might have done.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

John Mason

That is helpful. I will move to a slightly different angle. Brian Whittle asked about groups, including ethnic minority groups, with a lower vaccine uptake. I was struck by the geographical spread of uptake. SPICe provided us with some figures. For example, 96.4 per cent of people in East Dunbartonshire have had two doses, whereas the figure for Glasgow, which I happen to represent, is only 78.9 per cent. That seems to be quite a variation. Should I be worried about that?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

John Mason

Our advisers suggested that we look at why people are not getting vaccinated and that we perhaps need to do more work on that. The three words that they used were “complacency”, “confidence” and “convenience”, as the things that are stopping people or that we can encourage. Some people are complacent about getting vaccinated—certification probably helps with that. On the confidence issue, do we just have to accept that there is a core element of the population that will just not be vaccinated no matter what we do, or do we need to do more work in that area?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

John Mason

If we are okay for time, convener, I will aim my next question at Professor Noakes. I want to follow up on what she said to Murdo Fraser. She talked about air-cleaning technologies and high-efficiency particulate filters, which I am trying to get my head round.

I have an issue with ScotRail, our railway operator. This might be slightly different from the situation with buildings, but ScotRail has some trains with locked windows. They could be opened, but they are not. I asked ScotRail whether it would be better to open the windows, but it said that its artificial air-circulation system is just as good as having the windows open. Is that likely to be true?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

John Mason

That is helpful.

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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

John Mason

Building on what folk have said so far, I have a couple of questions. First, I am assuming that older buildings might be better in this regard than newer buildings, because their ceilings are higher and they are probably more draughty because they are not as well sealed. I am thinking of public buildings and people’s homes. Is that a fair assumption?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

John Mason

I will build on some points that have already been raised, one being the question of when we will stop using vaccination certificates. I take it that, because the scheme is part of a package and we cannot tell what specific impact it is having, it will continue along with mask wearing and the other restrictions. Its use is linked to the overall numbers of cases and of people in hospital. Is that what you are saying?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

John Mason

That leads me to where I was going next. I understand that more venues in Wales, including cinemas, will require people to have a certificate. I have been enthusiastic about the certification scheme, including the fact that it is limited to what I would call extra activities or things that are not a major part of people’s lives. That has been a good way to deal with it.

However, it is clear that the scheme is beginning to expand—we can call it creep or whatever. I think that Professor Leitch said that more places are requiring certification. For example, I am going to a COP26 meeting on Monday night where they want to see my vaccination certificate. That event is important to me. I do not go to big football matches, as members know, so I have not needed to use my certificate much. Are you worried that organisations could be using the scheme excessively? How do you see the scheme working, moving forward?