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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

John Mason

It really means that, at least during the set-up process, we are going to have another organisation—the care board—on top of the existing ones. The suggestion seems to be that we cannot just switch other things off—the IJB or whatever—on the same day. Much as I am in favour of jobs for accountants, that means that there will be a finance director in the council, a finance director in the health board, a finance director in the health and social care partnership and a finance director in the care board. That seems to be quite a lot of duplication.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

John Mason

Okay. On another subject, we have already noted that various people have raised the issue of VAT. I take your point that you are having talks with HM Revenue and Customs and other bodies and you will come back to us on that, but I want to press you on it a little bit more. The point has been made that a lot will depend on the type of legal entity that the care boards will be. Can you say anything about that? Is it possible to say that we will choose a legal entity that will definitely avoid VAT?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

John Mason

That is a one-word answer—thank you.

I am thinking specifically of city and town centres. We do not really know whether they are going to recover and whether people will eventually go back. Do you want to expand on that “No”?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

John Mason

That is helpful. It struck me that some students might work for only a few hours a week and some might not, but some would be counted as economically inactive and some as active.

We had evidence from the Institute for Fiscal Studies, which talked about “the effective workforce”. It will be interesting to hear what other people think about that but I take it to mean people who are doing full-time jobs.

The other angle on that is that some people have definitely reassessed their whole lifestyle and work-life balance. A lot of us would say that that is a good thing—you can spend a bit more time with your family and so on. I heard one guy on the radio last week—a musician—saying that he previously never took breaks, and now he is taking breaks. That is good in a sense, but it probably contributes less to the economy.

I am struggling a wee bit here to ask a specific question. Is the issue that people are doing fewer hours and have a better work-life balance, but that is actually damaging the economy? I am not sure who wants to answer that.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

John Mason

That is helpful. I am interested in where things are going as we move forward, so I will link that to a suggestion in your paper, Professor Fothergill, that in some areas there is no point in investing in or boosting the economy further because those areas already have full employment. You said that we should target our support more at areas where there is not full employment, which I presume are the needier areas.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

John Mason

There is a lot to follow up on. I want to clarify some of the data—perhaps this is a question for Mr Freeman from the ONS. It is about the term “economic inactivity”. Do I understand it correctly that people who might only work one hour a week and people who might work 35 hours a week are all lumped together and defined as economically active? Is that correct?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

John Mason

You are involved in the cross-party group on industrial communities. Is your suggestion that, if the Scottish Government has money, it should focus on the needier areas—the old industrial areas?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

John Mason

Mr Freeman, you mentioned ethnic minorities towards the end of your submission. Can you say anything about the impact on ethnic minorities and how they are coping?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

John Mason

I am referring to the second-last page of your submission.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 November 2022

John Mason

I will stick with Tony Wilson. Have we now reached a settled state, or are we—