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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

John Mason

That is helpful. I confess that I have not read every word in the report. I focused on certain chapters, so I will go back to the one that I have read. I am struggling with figure 4.2 on page 44, as some of it seems a little counterintuitive, so I want to ask you to explain some of that.

For example, the first paragraph under the chart says:

“Scottish tax revenues would grow by an additional 5 per cent by 2072-73 ... because of the larger pool of Scottish tax payers. But the BGAs would increase four times as rapidly due to the impact of greater population growth in Scotland”

relative to England and Northern Ireland. I am struggling to understand that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

John Mason

Thanks.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

John Mason

Mr Taylor, I will give you the last word, on auditing kindness.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

John Mason

Right. Just to clarify again, on the 1.7 per cent, you say that we are relatively insulated.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

John Mason

You have kind of underlined what I was thinking. So, 1.7 per cent would be the absolute minimum or the best situation—however you want to look at it—whereas, as you say, 10.1 per cent is where we are more likely to be.

What would 1.7 per cent mean for us? I think that you gave us a figure, but what would we have to raise income tax or cut expenditure by to get 1.7 per cent?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

John Mason

I will come back to you on that, but I will let Mr Black come in first.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

John Mason

I am sorry to interrupt you. Do you agree that, often, people give their views and then the Government, the committee or whoever says, “We have heard and considered your views, but we disagree with them”, yet people think that they have not been heard at all?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

John Mason

Mr Thurman, you mentioned children and young people. I was going to ask about that anyway. In evidence from the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland and other people on communication, we heard that decisions that are being made should be better communicated to the general public, through, I presume, the language that is used. I am interested to hear your thoughts on that, and on the idea that children and young people should be more involved in decision making. When we come to discuss the national care service or the budget, is such involvement realistic?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

John Mason

Mr Thurman, kindness is a point that came up in your report. Can you build kindness into the civil service, or is it just an individual thing?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Long Covid Inquiry

Meeting date: 23 March 2023

John Mason

There is a lot of misinformation, which the committee looked at previously, about vaccines and vaccine damage. I do not know whether you agree, but it is my view that it would help if we could get some simple figures out, such as the one that I still use a lot, which is that vaccines saved 20 million lives. I assume that the number has gone up, although I still use that figure. Simple messages like that might get through to people. Someone came into my office last Friday who was still very wary of the vaccines and needed some reassurance.