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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 May 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

John Mason

You have given me a few answers, so I could ask 20 supplementary questions. I will take the issue of training as an example, because one person who spoke to the committee told us that they felt that, as they got older, their employer was less and less willing to send them on training courses and therefore their information technology skills were not up to speed. The thought of going back to that might be difficult, especially for someone who has had a break for a couple of years during Covid. What you said about Age Scotland working with employers to do a bit more on training older workers is encouraging. Do you think that the issue is widespread?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

John Mason

I have slipped just beyond the 50 to 64 age group.

You mentioned flexible working once or twice, but we have had a mixed picture from witnesses. We have heard some good examples. There was a young guy who had health issues who works for Tesco. He cannot handle big crowds, so his employer has got him working at night. That struck me as good, and he is really happy about that. However, we heard from an older lady who had had a break from work—I am not sure whether she was furloughed—and who, as a result of health issues, being older and perhaps having caring responsibilities, wanted to go back to work in a slightly more flexible way than she had worked previously. However, her employer—I cannot remember whether she worked in the private or the public sector; it might have been the public sector, actually—was totally inflexible. Basically, the employer said that she had to come back 9 to 5, or whatever the equivalent was. Can the Government do more on that, or is it really just up to individual employers?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

John Mason

Yes. When you say “fair work”, the thing that jumps to mind for most people is a living wage, but it is correct to say that fair work includes quite a lot more than that, including flexibility.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

John Mason

Another group to consider is people with fluctuating conditions that mean one day they will feel good and can work eight hours, but on another day they will not feel so good. We have had evidence that, in some sectors, it is easier for employers to be supportive. If a person is doing office work, it does not matter whether they do all of their work on Tuesday or they do all of it on Wednesday, but if they are serving in a restaurant they have to be there on certain days. Is it more difficult for some sectors to be flexible?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

John Mason

Another group to consider is those who already have a long-term disability or who have health issues because of Covid, who are very nervous about going back to work and being with a lot of people. I guess that it could be difficult for employers to be able to adapt to that.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

John Mason

We have met various people over the past few weeks, and a subject that we discussed with some people with experience is early retirement. There seems to be quite a mixed picture in that regard. There are clearly some professional people with good pensions who, in their mid-50s or at 60, feel that they want a different work-life balance and take retirement. However, that means that the economy loses their experience and their energy—at least in paid employment; they may be doing other things.

Do we just accept that people in that group have gone and we cannot do anything about it, or should we be trying to bring some of them back into the labour market?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

John Mason

I am interested in the level of interest rates. At 4 per cent, they are felt to be high at the moment, but they are considerably lower than inflation. If that was to continue in the long term, would everybody not just borrow and make a profit? Are we in an unusual situation at the moment, or could it continue to be the case in the long term that inflation is higher than interest rates?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

John Mason

My understanding is that the OBR’s forecasts assume quite a big increase in fuel duty next April. The suggestion was that, if that does not go ahead, there could be a £6 billion hole in the UK Government’s finances. Can you say anything about that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

John Mason

That is very helpful. Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24 (United Kingdom Context)

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

John Mason

I am still slightly puzzled, but I accept that there is not a clear-cut answer.

Liz Smith asked about the prices of gas and food and what was driving inflation. Can we compare the situation here with that in other countries? Are other countries—western countries, especially—in much the same position? Are there differences in the inflation level in neighbouring or similar countries, or in the reasons for inflation?