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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Medium-term Financial Strategy, Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Policy Prospectus

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

John Mason

That is great. Thanks.

One of the points that has come up from a few questioners is the uncertainty of the timing of the UK Government’s budget setting. That issue has come to the committee quite a lot. Although it is a request rather than a question, can you press the UK Government? I know that you cannot dictate to it.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Medium-term Financial Strategy, Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Policy Prospectus

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

John Mason

If we had consistency every year as to when the UK Government budget was set, we could build on that budget, and local government and everybody else could come afterwards.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Medium-term Financial Strategy, Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Policy Prospectus

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

John Mason

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Medium-term Financial Strategy, Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Policy Prospectus

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

John Mason

Thank you, cabinet secretary. You have covered quite a lot of ground, but the committee has a lot of ground to cover, too. Each member will have about 15 minutes for questions and answers.

I will start. You mentioned the key figure of next year’s budget and the potential negative income tax reconciliation, which was, I think, £712 million—actually, I think that the figure for negative tax reconciliation is £687 million in total. Can you explain a little more your thinking as to how you will deal with that? Can some of the money be borrowed? Where will the rest come from? We will direct our questions to you, cabinet secretary, and it will be up to you to bring in your officials.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Medium-term Financial Strategy, Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Policy Prospectus

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

John Mason

We accept that we cannot have a running commentary, but both our committees and the committees at Westminster need to do a certain amount of scrutinising. Can you give us any idea of timescales? I believe that the initial report has been completed, but not published, and then there is meant to be a review. Do the negotiations come after that?

09:45  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Medium-term Financial Strategy, Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Policy Prospectus

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

John Mason

You mentioned the external tax stakeholder group. Some of us feel that we have talked about tax quite a lot. Obviously, I fully agree that we need to engage the public more on why we have tax, whether tax is a good thing or a bad thing and other such questions. However, can you explain a little more why we need the external tax stakeholder group? To take a specific example, we have been planning to replace council tax for ages, but it still has not happened.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Medium-term Financial Strategy, Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Policy Prospectus

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

John Mason

Colleagues might want to ask more about that, but I want to touch on one other issue. The medium-term financial strategy mentions that the Scottish Government will

“unapologetically direct our resources to those in greatest need”,

and it talks about

“effective targeting”.

Is that a hint that support and benefits for people will be more targeted, rather than universal?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Medium-term Financial Strategy, Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Policy Prospectus

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

John Mason

I thank the Deputy First Minister and her officials for their evidence today. That concludes the public part of today’s meeting.

The next item on our agenda, which will be taken in private, is an evidence session with the Cabinet Secretary for NHS Recovery, Health and Social Care, on a proposed contingent liability.

11:22 Meeting continued in private until 12:03.  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Medium-term Financial Strategy, Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Policy Prospectus

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

John Mason

Yes. If we have a little time at the end, I might let you back in, but it is Michael Marra’s turn now.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Medium-term Financial Strategy, Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Policy Prospectus

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

John Mason

Douglas, you are keen to come in briefly on something else.