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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 20 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

Ms Sanger, one of the submissions—it might not have been yours; it might have been from one of your colleagues—suggested that we should have some bad list of people who are not to do training. Is that a serious suggestion?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

Might it be better to say that all the trainers have to adhere to a certain standard or be passed as qualified, instead of saying, “Here is a list of names”?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

Barnardo’s Scotland has commented that a little bit of training might actually do more harm than good, because it gives people the idea—[Interruption.] I see that you are shaking your head.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

Dr Webster, there is the idea that a little bit of training actually enables people to think, “Oh well, I will do restraint.” Is that a fair concern?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

I unwisely volunteered to ask questions that no one else wanted to ask, so I have things that are dotted around the bill.

Clearly, we have a responsibility to kids, especially to young people with special needs. We also have responsibility to staff, including council employees, whether they are employed directly or indirectly. The NASUWT talks about taking into account

“the duty of care to all in the school community by ensuring rights are not viewed exclusively through the lens of the child who may be the subject of an intervention”.

Do you think we are getting the balance right between our duties to an employee—such as a teacher who might be subject to physical threat—and the rights of the child?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

That is a helpful comment. Ms Killean, do you have the same view?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

I think that it is in your submission that the term “training needs analysis” is used. Can you explain what you mean by that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

That will vary for every single school, because some are mainstream with a unit, some are special needs and so on.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

Would the training needs analysis be carried out by the headteacher?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

So we get the bill through, and then it may spill out into the other sectors.