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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

John Mason

My next question was going to be whether 11 per cent was a reasonable figure. Do you benchmark that percentage against costs in other countries? I do not know what Denmark or anywhere else spends, for example. However, at last week’s meeting of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee, we heard that Social Security Scotland is aiming for a figure of 5.2 per cent for its costs to distribute benefits, which is also quite a complex area.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

John Mason

There would still be a core cost even if you paid out no grants.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

John Mason

Is there no estimate for implementation costs?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

John Mason

I am assuming that the IT systems could probably cope with it if you tweak the present system but that, if you do something radically different, we might need a new system.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

John Mason

It was Social Security Scotland, which is aiming for 5.2 per cent. I therefore wonder whether the figure of 11 per cent is okay, or good. How do we judge that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

John Mason

So, although the financial memorandum says that the implementation cost has been excluded, in effect, it assumes that the present costs will carry on roughly as they are. Is that fair?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

John Mason

You mentioned IT. In paragraph 62, you refer back to last time that there was

“significant IT modernisation and business change”,

when the cost was £178 million. In fact, it says that that programme

“did not deliver all the aims and benefits originally envisaged”.

Where are we with IT?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Homelessness and Temporary Accommodation

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

John Mason

Thanks very much.

My main question is for Mr Cameron. In your submission, you have suggested that there has been a lower turnover of social lets or lets from RSLs. Can you give us a bit more on that? Why do you think that that is the case? Presumably, people are dying at much the same rate as they always did.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Homelessness and Temporary Accommodation

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

John Mason

But whether people move or stay does not affect the total number of houses available, does it?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

John Mason

I accept that things are changing at the moment and that you are taking on new stuff, so it is quite hard, but should there not be some kind of target? Otherwise is there not a danger that costs will run away with themselves? We look at charities and say that, if they are spending 10 per cent on admin, there is something wrong.