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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

John Mason

Well, given that that money—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

John Mason

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

John Mason

Still on the money and on the comment that £1 that is spent today could save £4 in the future, it has been suggested that that would not be a saving, given how much pressure there is on the justice and health systems. It would just relieve some of the pressure, so there would, in fact, not be any saving.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

John Mason

I do not think that we will see that money coming back, but I take your point that it will relieve the pressure.

Finally, you want the bill to be put into law. It seems to have become a habit of the Government and others to put things into law but then not achieve them. What happens if we put the bill into law and targets are not met? Would a Government minister go to prison?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

John Mason

Is that 50 per cent to 66 per cent just what you would like to happen, or do people think it could happen?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

John Mason

In an answer to the convener, you said that people should not be told that they cannot have treatment because of the cost. However, is that not just life? We cannot have more roads because of the cost, we cannot have more houses because of the cost and we have waiting lists in the NHS because of the cost. We are limited, as a nation and as individuals, by how much money we have. Surely there has to come a point at which there is just no money for someone’s hip replacement or whatever else they need.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

John Mason

Well, give me a suggestion for the future. We have wasted money on the ferries and we have wasted money on IT. Where in next year’s budget would we get the money from?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

John Mason

I look forward to that. I would just raise tax and pay for it in that way, but you might not want to do that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

John Mason

Is that another area on which we do not have data? In my limited experience, addiction has a really powerful hold on people. Some people might say, today, “Yes, I’d like to get off drugs,” but the grip on them is so strong that they do not continue with treatment.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Right to Addiction Recovery (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

John Mason

Fair enough.