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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

John Mason

Does the member accept that it would be different if ministers had the power to take away some responsibility of the inspector, but that ministers having the ability to add something on surely does not affect the inspector’s independence?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

John Mason

Pam Duncan-Glancy said that amendments 261 and 271 require qualifications Scotland to comply with the learner charter and the teacher and practitioner charter, respectively. However, the amendments say that qualifications Scotland must comply with

“the expectations set out in”

the charters. Can she clarify the difference between complying with the charters and complying with the expectations set out in them?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

John Mason

You are talking about things like alcohol, tobacco and all of that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

John Mason

Being a little bit pessimistic, as I think that some of my colleagues are, too, today, it seems to me that, however well we do, however much we spend and however healthy the population becomes, the demand for health services will just grow and grow and grow. We will never be able to meet the demand; there will never be a time when supply equals demand. You can absolutely disagree with me. We have already mentioned mental health and obesity, which, when I was younger, were not talked about as much or were not there. Something else will turn up. If we sort obesity and mental health, it will be something else tomorrow, will it not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

John Mason

In chapter 4 of the report, in the section on the determinants of health spending, you refer to demographics and other cost pressures. I was particularly interested in what you refer to as “the income effect”, which seems to say that, as people get wealthier, their expectations increase and therefore their demand for healthcare increases. You can tell me whether that is a correct summary. Earlier, we heard the idea, which would seem obvious, that, if people’s health improves, we will not need to spend so much on the health service. However, this seems to say the opposite—in other words, that, as people get better off, their health might improve in some ways, but, in other ways, we need to spend more money.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

John Mason

As has been raised—and we will probably raise it in our next session as well—if you lay out a number of scenarios A, B, C and D, the media will go for the absolute worst of them. If we said that, if teachers get a pay increase, class sizes will have to increase to compensate, that would immediately become the headline. Politically, is it realistic to lay out options, some of which would be pretty unpalatable?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

John Mason

I may go over some of the ground that the convener has already been over. The assumption is that it is a good thing to have a medium-term financial strategy and plans for the future. For example, the Scottish Fiscal Commission and the Office for Budget Responsibility look 50 years ahead. As has been said, we must balance the budget every year, but unexpected issues can come up. An example is the UK Government giving public sector workers a higher pay increase, which we must follow. Are you convinced that there is value in having a five-year plan?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

John Mason

Can you spell out the difference that it could have made if we had had better and more frequent medium-term financial strategies in the past few years? You mentioned capital projects and workforce planning. Where might it have made a difference to those things, as well as to other aspects in the future? There are many capital projects—we want to build more houses and dual the A9—but we will not know what the capital budget is, so can we plan ahead?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

John Mason

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

John Mason

Okay. On a slightly different subject, you are a bit sceptical about the committees doing year-round work if they do not have enough information from the Government to do it. Can you expand on that? I am keen on the idea that the committees do work throughout the year in relation to the budget. For example, the Education, Children and Young People Committee has been looking at the situation at Dundee university, which has become quite a challenge. I see that as part of that committee’s budget work—it is not coming from the Government, it is coming from the circumstances and the situation around funding for universities. Do you not think that it is possible for the committees to do a lot of their budget work regardless of whether they get information from the Government?