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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

John Mason

Not for you, obviously, no. I am not meaning the three who are here, but do you think that, out in the training world, there are some that are less scrupulous?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

John Mason

You may know why I am asking you some of this. It appears that the SFC did not pick up that there were problems at the University of Dundee before the university told it about them. It concerns me slightly that the SFC is just sitting there, waiting for information to appear.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

John Mason

Ms Rae, you said earlier that you have no relationship with the SFC, but you do have one with SDS. Presumably, if SDS staff move to the SFC, from your point of view it is just a change of name.

Earlier, I was asking about the powers that the SFC will have to look at colleges and universities. You can comment on that if you want, but I am assuming that you are not particularly interested by that. Would you want a relationship with the SFC, or SDS as it currently is? A bit more funding might be available, but there would be a lot of strings attached to it and the SFC could come and check up on you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

John Mason

Would you be aware if there were some less scrupulous trainers and organisations out there?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

John Mason

Thanks for helping me to understand that. I will move on to the other two witnesses now. On that first point about the SFC or SDS, whoever it is, would you welcome more involvement from it? If money came but with a lot of strings attached, is that a picture that you would like to see?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

John Mason

That helps me to understand the area a bit better. The colleges portray that they give better training in some ways, but is the main difference that it is very generalised, whereas your training is more specialised?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

John Mason

Does the pay level for apprentices vary hugely around the country?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

John Mason

I will leave it at that. I could ask you more, but thanks very much.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

John Mason

Thanks, convener. I could probably go on longer.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

John Mason

Ms Viswanathan, I think that you are involved in the SFC. Is that correct? You are on one of the committees. Does the SFC have the powers it needs to oversee the financial sustainability of universities?