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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 November 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Graeme Dey

Thank you for inviting me to join you to discuss matters within the committee’s remit. I am grateful to the committee for its work in considering around 100 SSIs since my predecessor appeared here on 1 April. When I took on this role, I was encouraged to note that fewer issues—and, particularly, fewer serious issues—had been experienced with instruments in 2024-25 than had been in the previous year.

However, it would be remiss of me not to acknowledge that there was an increase in the number of issues with SSIs in the first quarter of this year. I am sure that we will cover that issue. Although that is partly explained by a package of SSIs dealing with pensions, I reassure the committee at the outset that the Scottish Government is carefully considering what it can do to ensure that that does not become a trend and that we maintain our otherwise good record. In addition, I highlight that, in addition to secondary legislation, we have introduced seven bills since 1 April.

In conclusion, I thank you for your diligence in considering the legislation that comes before you and am grateful for the close working relationship between our officials. I know from my previous time in this role that the DPLR Committee is hugely important to the operation of this Parliament. Together with Douglas Kerr, Steven MacGregor and Claire Trail, I am happy to answer any questions from the committee and, if necessary, I will follow up in writing. Given that I have been back in post for only a few weeks and am still getting fully up to speed, I will, with the convener’s indulgence, lean on the officials for detail so that we can provide answers that will fully meet the committee’s aspirations.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Graeme Dey

I am not trying to blame the UK Government for any delay, but that will depend on its response to the cabinet secretary’s letter. The officials may be able to give you some idea of the timescales that we would work to in such circumstances.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Graeme Dey

Absolutely.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Graeme Dey

That is particularly the case with regard to the EU element, so that we understand the timings in the context of both the pre-election period and going into the next session of Parliament.

I would like to think—indeed, I would like to be assured—that good conversations are happening between my officials and your clerks to keep the committee apprised of what is happening. If you feel that that engagement can be improved, we will be happy to take that away and look at it.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Graeme Dey

We will write to the committee to update you once we have that timetable.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Graeme Dey

The timings between stages 2 and 3 are agreed in conjunction with Parliament. I said earlier that, in comparison with some other years, we are not facing an overly congested legislative landscape between now and the end of the session, but there is no doubt that it is busy. Scheduling stages 2 and 3 of legislation can be challenging at times and I cannot sit here and say that there is a magic wand we can wave to resolve that. We work in conjunction with committees to set deadlines: they suggest the deadlines that they would like and we try to accommodate those or to get as close to them as possible. I assure you that a lot of work goes into that, but I cannot sit here today and assure you that we can magically improve that situation overnight.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Graeme Dey

Roz McCall’s contribution has made me think that we need to reflect on that with a view to the next parliamentary session. There will be a substantial intake of brand new MSPs who will not have even the four years of knowledge that some of our current MSPs have. When you first become an MSP, it is difficult to try to get to grips with those things. I will take that away and reflect on what we need to do to try to ensure that the new intake of MSPs in particular are able to hit the ground running. If the committee writes to me on the back of the session with any thoughts about how we could do that, I would be interested in the committee’s views.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Graeme Dey

There is nothing to say with regard to the 289-page environmental amendment regs, which you will all recall, but there are two large SSIs that are due to be laid—one of around 90 pages that is due on 24 November and one of around 84 pages that is due at the beginning of December. Those are the two significantly large SSIs that we are anticipating—unless officials think that we should bring anything else to the committee’s attention.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Graeme Dey

There might be a further two SSIs to come in the new year, but those are the two large ones in the immediate future.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Graeme Dey

That brings me back to the conversations that I would hope to have with UK ministers in which I would reinforce that point, on the back of which I would be happy to update the committee on where we have got to.