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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 May 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Creative Scotland (Funding for Rein)

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Neil Bibby

Good morning, panel members.

We have heard that Creative Scotland’s letter to the committee and its wider statements to the media suggested that it believed that no non-simulated sexual activity was to take place as part of the project.

However, we just heard from Alexander Stewart about genital contact being mentioned in the application, and from the convener about STI checks being part of the application.

There is mention in the application of “a sex party” and two sexual acts beginning with the letter F, and it states that people who work on the project will have “experience ... in ... pornography”.

As you said earlier, it was suggested in the R and D phase that there would be non-simulated sex. Is that correct? Was that, and were all the things that we have just mentioned, in the application?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Creative Scotland (Funding for Rein)

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Neil Bibby

Mr Wilson?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Creative Scotland (Funding for Rein)

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Neil Bibby

Given everything that was in the application, the suggestion in the R and D phase of non-simulated sex should surely have raised eyebrows at that point and provoked at least some further explanation from the assessor on the nature of the sexual activity involved.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Creative Scotland (Funding for Rein)

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Neil Bibby

Personally, I think that what was in the application should have set off alarm bells.

Earlier, Mr Wilson said that Creative Scotland has not misled anyone. From what you have said about the application, and the fact that it turned out to include live sex, do you believe that Creative Scotland was misled by the applicant about the nature of the project?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Creative Scotland (Funding for Rein)

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Neil Bibby

Thank you for your answers. I have one final question. Substantial funds of more than £100,000 were awarded to the project’s R and D phase and application. We have heard this morning that the bulk of the funds have been repaid. How much was awarded and how much has been repaid?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Creative Scotland (Funding for Rein)

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Neil Bibby

We have already discussed the public discourse and the reaction to the funding grant. The committee wrote to Creative Scotland on 25 March, asking for the application to be published because we felt that doing so was in the interests of public confidence and transparency. Creative Scotland responded on 16 April, stating that, although there was an intention to publish the application, that could not be done until

“a thorough review of ... materials”

was undertaken

“to remove any personal information, any business confidential information, or any information that, if publicly disclosed, could pose a threat to an individual”.

You will note that the application and the materials were released under FOI on Tuesday 21 May. The first I heard of the application process was through the media. However, the committee was not sent the full application until 22 May. As the committee asked for the application to be published on 25 March, why did it have to learn about it through the media a day after it was released?

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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Creative Scotland (Funding for Rein)

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Neil Bibby

So £31,578 has not been repaid.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Creative Scotland (Funding for Rein)

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Neil Bibby

The FOI responses were published on 21 May and the committee got the application on 22 May. It is regrettable that we were not given the application when we asked for it, or at least when the responses were published.

On the issue of transparency—I go back to previous points about the alarm bells that should have been ringing—you will be aware that internal emails, as reported in The Times newspaper in September 2022, just a month after the project was awarded funding, suggested that the project could cause concern if picked up by the press. Were either of you personally aware of those concerns? If so, did you speak with the individual who had raised them, and did you feel assured that those concerns were misplaced?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Creative Scotland (Funding for Rein)

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Neil Bibby

Thank you. That is all, convener.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 9 May 2024

Neil Bibby

Good morning to the panel. In particular, as Mr Brown said, it is good to see Mr Bain.

My question relates to Prosper’s written evidence, but I would like to hear reflections from other panel members as well. Mr Williams, in that evidence, you said:

“Many respondents reported challenges due to differing implementation of the TCA by EU states or authorities. Some of these appeared to be due to a lack of understanding of the rules. There was a perception among some respondents that some states or authorities were being more deliberately unhelpful.”

I would like further details on what particular states you were referring to, how unhelpful they were and what motivations were behind that. Do the other witnesses have any reflections on that evidence?