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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Willie Rennie

From your experience and discussions, you have heard of six or seven cases, but you think that the figure is probably higher.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Willie Rennie

You are right that the university has got what it has asked for so far, but I am intrigued as to why it went from £20 million in financial transaction support down to £15 million at the last minute, after the First Minister had signed it off. I am puzzled by that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Willie Rennie

We get limited time for questions following statements. Individually, we get about 45 seconds, so I hope that you do not mind giving us the answers now.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Willie Rennie

Has anybody phoned them?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Willie Rennie

Because you said earlier that it is “a last resort”, and then you changed your mind to say that it should never be used. Why did you change your mind?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Willie Rennie

Okay. It was pretty stark evidence, and if I was the minister, I would be straight on the phone and I would want to know why the 15-minute timetable was used as a dodge to make sure that there were no exclusions, because a 15-minute timetable with no wraparound support is a dodge. Why did you not phone them?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Willie Rennie

Right. There were a lot of words there, but I was really just asking this. You did not seem to be aware of what the Promise said—I think that was pretty obvious to everybody.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Willie Rennie

The evidence that we have had contradicts that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Willie Rennie

We have had evidence from some senior people in the social work service, as well as from care-experienced young people. This very week, on Monday, we had a session with care-experienced young people who told us about this.

Ben Farrugia from Social Work Scotland said:

“If someone seeks support but there is not a crisis, we cannot get to them.”—[Official Report, Education, Children and Young People Committee, 4 December 2024; c 60.]

In my constituency, I had a case in which a young man’s family were pleading for a long time for early intervention, and the case eventually ended up in crisis and a secure unit because the intervention was not provided early enough.

On Monday, we heard that, if a young person has been in crisis but has moved on from it, social workers are encouraging the family to say that the person is still in crisis, just to get the basic level of support.

Those are three examples from three well-grounded people. Why do you say that it is not a problem?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Willie Rennie

Minister, you said in your opening comments that we are “on course”, but, looking at the figures, I do not think that we are. We are way behind. We are five years into the programme and eight years on from the start of the review, but we are just talking about setting up these bodies and having these plans. Surely you cannot say that we are on course.