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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Future Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Edward Mountain

I will limit my questions, but can I first say how refreshing it is to hear from our two witnesses? I just put on the record that, for the past year, for medical reasons and through no choice of my own, I have had to participate in a virtual or hybrid way at nearly every meeting of the committee and the Parliament. I longed to get back, and I think that it is good to hear how important it is to make connections with people. In my week back in the Parliament, I was able to have off-the-record conversations and coffees with cabinet secretaries to discuss things in a way that was almost impossible online. Those relationships with cabinet secretaries had been built up over the previous session, so I had got to know them—that is so important, and that is a point that both witnesses have brought out.

I want to ask two very quick questions. First, do the witnesses think that there should be different arrangements for ministers who are speaking to the Parliament or giving evidence to committees? Do they need to be present so that we can see what they are saying and see how they are reacting, or should they just be allowed to do it online, where they have a habit of talking the time out?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Future Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Edward Mountain

I find what Professor Russell has just said really interesting. The fact is that I am able to see only Professor Russell talking; I cannot see the reaction of any other committee member, because, when she speaks, she is the only person on the screen. There is no way I can see what all of you are feeling or whether or not you are agreeing. Professor Russell, is your fundamental point that politicians cannot interpret other people’s opinions and the way they are swinging when people are talking?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Draft Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Edward Mountain

The whole of the previous panel, except for Elspeth Macdonald who had already left, lamented the loss of the inshore fisheries bill that the Government announced that it was going to introduce in 2016. It would be helpful to use such a bill as a vehicle to come up with inshore fisheries management plans. Do you agree and will you introduce such a bill?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Draft Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Edward Mountain

I will follow up on that last question first, if I may.

In 2016, the Scottish Government announced that it wanted to produce an inshore fisheries bill. The rationale was that the Government did not feel that it understood or had control of the inshore fisheries as it should. Part of the plan was to include management plans on a zonal basis, as I understand it. The bill never came about. Was that a missed opportunity? Because of the shortness of time, I am happy to take a yes or no answer from Charles Millar and Elaine Whyte, if they are prepared to do that.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Draft Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Edward Mountain

Thank you. We will be watching closely.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Draft Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Edward Mountain

I want to push on that point a little bit with James Harrison, if I may. Surely the beauty of things being slightly vague is that that allows the devolved Administrations to discuss who the lead person should be when negotiating internationally on the uptake of quota when we are unable to fill the quota ourselves. I believe that we have an obligation to exploit the quota if we have not got to the sustainable yield limit. There could surely be some merit in Scotland taking the lead on some aspects and England taking the lead on others. Surely that is a merit of what is being suggested. Do you agree?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Draft Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Edward Mountain

That is exactly the flipside of what I was saying. It would be the devolved Administration with the majority of the stock in question that would take the lead and encourage all the other devolved Administrations to follow the same line. The objective would be achieved both ways.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Draft Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Edward Mountain

Thank you.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Draft Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Edward Mountain

Helen, do you want to come in on that? I think that there has to be a space for nature in there somewhere, as well.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Draft Joint Fisheries Statement

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Edward Mountain

I am sure that you do not always agree with what Allan Gibb says, but that is life.