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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Edward Mountain

The report came up with a lot of recommendations. Have you worked out how much all that is going to cost? If it is going to cost more money than you get at the moment, do you have an idea of the percentage increase that you will need in the budget in order to start delivering on the things that you have been asked to do?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Edward Mountain

Sorry but, before we go back to Ash Regan, my problem is that that is chicken and egg. You do not want funding to be ring fenced, and you will give an assurance that it will be paid in the right direction provided that it is for the long term; however, surely the Government will just come back and say that it wants it to be ring fenced and that it will be for the long term. Is that an oversimplification?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Edward Mountain

I am sorry, Ash. I jumped in—I apologise—so back to you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Edward Mountain

That will be the issue of interest and the challenge. We have not always got that right. I know that Highland Council was subsidising all its EV charging points so that people got very cheap charging across the council area. Some people felt that that was wrong. Similarly, we have seen that in other services that we provide, including hospital television, where people have been charged through the nose because we have attracted private finance for that provision.

My concern is how we balance that and how we let people who are benefiting from a service know that it might cost them something in return. Unless we do that, we will not take the communities with us.

I see that you are nodding, Councillor Macgregor, so we are not disagreeing.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Edward Mountain

Agenda item 2 is an evidence session following our inquiry into the role of local government and its cross-sectoral partners in financing and delivering a net zero Scotland.

The committee reported to the Parliament in January after a major inquiry that lasted over a year and which ranged over a variety of issues relevant to local government. On 14 March, we held a debate in Parliament to highlight the conclusions of the inquiry. We received a response from the Scottish Government on 20 April and agreed to invite back the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities and its partners in sustainable local governance to share their views on the response and the way forward.

I am pleased to welcome Councillor Gail Macgregor, environment and economy spokesperson, COSLA, and leader, Dumfries and Galloway Council; David Hammond, representative of the Society of Local Authority Chief Executives and Senior Managers and head of sustainability, corporate property and transport, North Ayrshire Council; George Tarvit, director, Sustainable Scotland Network; and Silke Isbrand, policy manager, environment and economy team, COSLA. Unfortunately, due to an accident at the weekend, Silke Isbrand is joining us remotely. I hope that you are fully recovered and fit—I would not say fighting fit—for this session.

I thank you all for accepting our invitations. We are delighted to have you here.

I think that Councillor Macgregor wishes to make a short opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Edward Mountain

Everyone is ducking.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Complaint

Meeting date: 11 May 2023

Edward Mountain

I agree.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Edward Mountain

I am concerned that a 168 per cent increase suggests that there are problems with fish health and that we are just using more antibiotics to cover it up, which could be to the detriment of our need for antibiotics.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Edward Mountain

You are saying that you are content to let mortalities increase by 35 per cent. The industry will say that it is producing more fish and that therefore accounts for more mortalities. However, compounding an error surely is not the way forward. I do not understand any industry that would accept a 25 per cent mortality rate. I understand that, with farming, there is a certain amount of mortality, but are you really happy with 25 per cent? Do you think that that is good for the environment around our coastlines or good for the industry?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Edward Mountain

I have two questions. My first question is about waste. One thing that has been clear in the industry is that the use of antibiotics has gone up by 168 per cent since 2017, and they are mainly used at sea. Are you comfortable that the industry is using such a high level of antibiotics at sea and that one of them, oxytetracycline, is one of the main ones used to treat human diseases, which is building up the risk of overuse of antibiotics? Are you concerned about that?