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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I am looking around to see whether there are any more questions, but before you think that it is all over, minister, I want to go back to ferries and just clarify what the committee report said. I want to make it absolutely clear that we said that we agreed with the direct award of the contract

“provided this arrangement is acceptable to communities and there are no legal barriers.”

That was the caveat in the report. However, Angus Campbell, who is on the ferries community board, said that that was not acceptable to communities. How are you going to square that circle with less than 16 months to go?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I want to be clear in my understanding of the situation. If the ferries community board gets the board of CalMac replaced, it is happy to recommend a direct award or contract. Is that what you are saying?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

It really is all over now, minister. Thank you for giving evidence to the committee this morning.

I suspend the meeting briefly to allow the minister to leave. Committee members should be back in five minutes, please.

12:00 Meeting suspended.  

12:05 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Welcome back, everyone. Our next item of business is consideration of a type 1 consent notification for the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Act 2023 (Revocation and Sunset Disapplication) Regulations 2023. This is a proposed UK statutory instrument where the UK Government is seeking the Scottish Government’s consent to legislate in an area of devolved competence.

On 5 September, the Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Net Zero and Just Transition notified the committee of the UK SI. The committee’s role is to decide whether it agrees with the Scottish Government’s proposal to consent to the UK Government’s making those regulations within devolved competence, and in the manner that the UK Government has indicated to the Scottish Government.

If members are content for consent to be given, the committee will write to the Scottish Government accordingly. In writing to the Scottish Government, we have the option to pose questions or to ask to be kept up to date on relevant developments. I remind committee members that we have written to the Scottish Government and the UK Government in relation to the SI, asking for responses within a reasonable timeframe, which I believe expires tomorrow.

Do members have any views, questions or comments?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

So, peatlands may fall within Màiri McAllan’s portfolio, but the land reform side of it, if there is land reform on peatlands, will fall within your portfolio.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you, minister. Last week, we clarified who is in charge of what aspects of the ferries and you are in charge of actually making them work rather than the purchase and management of vessels 801 and 802 before they come into service. I am happy with that.

When it comes to major transport infrastructure, there seems to be a separation of responsibilities. Roads infrastructure falls to you, but active travel and cycling infrastructure falls to Mr Harvie. How will you take that into account? How do you work together on delivery—say, on the small bit of A9 dualling that is now out for tender?

10:30  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you, minister. Those were the easy questions. We now turn to the difficult questions, starting with some from Mark Ruskell.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Minister, I am sorry, but with the greatest respect, you have just stated another untruth. In Scotland’s male close seasons, you shoot male deer during the rut process, but after the rut you give them a chance to recover. It is a pity—and really disappointing—that you have made that comment, because that is the second thing that proves a lack of knowledge about how to manage deer.

Stags can now be shot just as they are going into the rut; on 20 October, when they have come out of the rut and are coming back to the lowlands to recover so that they can last the winter, they go out of season. It is a similar situation with roe deer—they rut in August, and they are then allowed to recover after the rut before they go into the winter.

I am sorry, but I do not accept what you say, and I find it hugely disrespectful to the animals that you are talking about that you do not know when they are currently being shot in Scotland.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I am suitably chastised, convener, and on that note I will keep my questions and comments for when I speak to my motion to annul. I just feel passionately about the subject, and it is really important that we are factually correct when we deal with the welfare of animals.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I am glad that you clarified that that is in the good practice guidelines. Not a single member of the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission—not a single one of them—is a deer management practitioner. They include a World Federation for Animals officer, animal welfare officers, veterinarians, police and lecturers, but not a single one has practised deer management on a large scale. That concerns me because, at the end of the day, all of us as parliamentarians must ensure the welfare of the animals that we are killing in order to protect our natural land.