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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

—I am trying to keep the politics out of this. I am trying to work out whether you think that, if the rest of the UK made the majority decision that it would be 10p for a can instead of 20p, that would be the wrong way to go.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

I think that it is all about ensuring that the market is correct. It slightly concerns me that you seem to be wedded to a figure. That figure could be higher or lower in Scotland, which could mean problems for the internal market, which is what the act is trying to protect.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

I will make an observation, minister. On 14 March, you told the committee that the gateway review was imminent. On 24 March, you said in a letter to the committee that you would make it available. You also advised us that you had:

“committed to provide an indication of when findings from the March Gateway Review will be shared. The review report is currently in the process of being finalised. Therefore I will share the review findings with the committee in due course.”

10:15  

On 27 April, you told us that that would be imminent. On 8 June, I wrote to you regarding a report on the instructions to the committee and asked for the gateway review to be provided as soon as possible. If a committee asks for a report in March and, by June, it still does not have it, my observation is that that is disrespectful to the committee. I make that observation with no political point. The committees in the Parliament are here for a reason. It would have helped today’s evidence session if we had had that gateway review in front of us. I am not asking you to respond, but I think that it is wrong.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

I will make no further observation on that, minister, except to re-read your words to you, which are:

“I committed to provide an indication of when the findings from the March Gateway Review will be shared.”

You have shared the other documents, as you have rightly said, which the committee has been pushing for. As convener, my observation is that that has taken too long.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

I was not saying that there was a chance that the scheme would go forward in 2025; I was saying that there is a chance that CSL might be needed in 2025. From a business point of view, it is a punt to continue funding that level of salaries and costs on the basis that that organisation might be part of the new scheme.

10:30  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you, Bob.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

You ask your final one, and then I will come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

Can you quantify “risky”? I do not quite understand that. Surely, the Parliament is set up to allow a process to stop the scheme now, even if that meant the committee sitting during recess so that the procedure—whatever it is—could be carried out before 16 August.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you, minister. You will not be surprised to hear that there are a lot of questions. The first ones come from Mark Ruskell.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Edward Mountain

However, you could have withdrawn the SSI.