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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Monica Lennon has quite a few questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I am looking to see whether anyone is jumping up and down. I thought that you were trying to do that, Cat. Do you want to come in on that, very briefly?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Ewan raised his hand quickly, so he can go first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Sorry—I think that Ewan MacDonald-Russell was going to jump in. He said that there was little, and then he got cut off, so I am sure that he wants to say something.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Ash, is that your questioning complete?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Before we go to questions, I draw your attention to, and remind the committee of, the fact that we wrote to the Secretary of State for Scotland before the summer recess. In his response, he referred us to DEFRA, but DEFRA said that it did not want to attend a meeting. I have since written again on behalf of the committee, asking for a response and saying that we are not happy at being pushed from one arm of Government to another. Unfortunately, the response is not due until 30 September. I urge the UK Government to assist the committee’s understanding of the reasons behind the situation. That is all that I will say on the issue at this stage. Obviously, once we get a response, we can come back to it.

Minister, I will ask a very simple question. Glass was out, but cans could have been in. Would something not have been better than nothing? Should we not have gone with recycling cans?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Have you thrown everything out as far as cans and plastic bottles are concerned? Was there not perhaps a year to work on getting the labelling and the deposit level correct, so that we could have gone ahead with the scheme? I think that most people in Scotland felt that there would be a benefit from recycling cans and plastic containers.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I assume, minister, that you do not want to sum up on what you have heard from members.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

The committee will report on this outcome in due course. I invite the committee to delegate to me as convener the authority to finalise the report for publication.

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Our next item of business is an evidence session as part of the committee’s stage 1 scrutiny of the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill. The purpose of the session is to hear from a panel of representatives from Scotland’s business sector. Provisions in the bill will have implications for Scottish businesses, including new duties on the reporting of waste, minimum charges for single-use items and restrictions around the disposal of unsold consumer goods.

We are looking forward to the discussion. Sadly, we are one panel member down. Stacey Dingwall, who is the head of policy and external affairs for Scotland at the Federation of Small Businesses, is ill. She could not take part remotely because she has unfortunately lost her voice—a double whammy and we are sorry to miss her. However, we have Cat Hay, who is head of policy for the Food and Drink Federation Scotland; Ewan MacDonald-Russell, who is deputy head of the Scottish Retail Consortium; and Colin Smith, who is chief executive of the Scottish Wholesale Association. Thank you all for joining us.

We will move to questions from committee members and I will start by asking, in very general terms, whether you are concerned that the bill is enabling legislation and does not have a lot of detail in it on what will be implemented. It tells us what can be done, not what will be done. As a parliamentarian, that concerns me. Colin Smith, does it concern you?