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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Before I bring you back in Jackie, may I ask a quick question?

Mr Harley, you are kind of saying that the water might be fine from the environmental perspective but for God’s sake do not drink it and the last thing that you should do is swim in it. Is that what you are saying?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Oh, right.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Well, that is because it has got chlorine in it—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Mark Ruskell has a question about water quality and a further question after that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Our next item of business is an evidence session with environmental bodies as part of the committee’s stage 1 scrutiny of the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill. This is our second session on the bill, following a panel with business stakeholders last week.

I welcome back Nick Halfhide, who is director of nature and climate change for NatureScot, and David Harley, who is chief officer for circular economy for the Scottish Environment Protection Agency. I am also pleased to welcome Iain Gulland, who is chief executive officer of Zero Waste Scotland.

We have a list of questions. I have read your evidence to the committee and want to start by asking for a brief sentence or couple of sentences from Nick Halfhide and David Harley on whether they support the bill and whether we need it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

I kind of guessed your answer to that question, but I am happy to let you answer it now.

11:00  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Mark, the committee wrote to one of the big suppliers in Scotland—Amazon—and asked whether its representatives would like to come and give evidence to the committee on the subject of redistribution but, unfortunately, they are not prepared to come and give physical evidence to the committee. They have offered written evidence, but it would have been much stronger to have heard from them in person.

I will go back to the disposal of unused goods. Is there a concern that, if legislation does not keep pace across the United Kingdom, companies in Scotland might move stuff south of the border and avoid the regulation by saying that the goods can still be used in other parts of the United Kingdom? Iain Gulland, would that concern you, or is it totally impossible for that to happen?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

I will come back to you, David, but perhaps Iain Gulland can address this question. If I were struggling to sell an item, I might be prepared to give it to a charity to use or sell. If they could not sell it, however, they would take on the obligation of disposing of it, would they not? Would that frighten charities, or would they have confidence that they could keep shifting items?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay. Just before we go on to that, I want to ask a very quick question on household waste. There are 32 authorities and 32 different schemes; there are different coloured and different sized bins, and I get confused about what I am supposed to be putting in what bin depending on where I am. When I come to Edinburgh, I have no idea which bin replicates the one in my area—actually, I do not have any recycling bins in the remote area that I live in, because the council does not do recycling there. However, I get confused as to whether I should be putting things in a green bin, a blue bin or a brown bin. I think that there are yellow bins out now, too.

Should we have something simple that everyone can understand across the whole of Scotland? Should the council recycle some of its recycling bins and make them one colour so that we know what we are talking about? Iain Gulland, do you want to respond to that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

That leads us neatly on to the next questions. I believe that you have some questions, Jackie.