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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
I have a final question. The pricing of all this seems quite opaque to me. You have the costs that you put out, plus the contingency plan, plus what I call the Derek Mackay loan, then you have the extra money that has been given to the yard, and then you have some capital investment subsequent to that. That basically means that we are talking about £175 million to produce each of these ferries—that is roughly where I am at. That does not include any of the stuff that needs to be done in the harbours to make sure that they can take these boats. We know that Ardrossan cannot and there are no LNG tanks, so there is probably quite a lot of extra money in there that is not part of the contracts. If each of these boats, Glen Sannox and 802, has cost £175 million to build, what value will CMAL be putting them on its books at? That is the value that they will have to be insured at and that is their true worth, so what do you think the true worth of each of these boats is? It cannot be £175 million, surely.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
You left that answer hanging. You said that you know about the relationships that you have had in the past 18 months. You had better tell us about them, because we do not know.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
Effectively, we have wasted £100 million on each of these boats. We have paid £175 million for a boat that is worth £70 million?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
Our next item of business is to consider a document subject to parliamentary control, “Scotland’s Guiding Principles on the Environment: Statutory Guidance”. I thank all those people who submitted evidence during the past few weeks to help us. The statutory guidance is prepared under section 17 of the UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Continuity) (Scotland) Act 2021. The guidance can be published only after it has been laid before the Parliament for 40 days. During that period, the Parliament may agree a motion resolving that the guidance should not be published. If such a motion were agreed, the guidance would not be published, but no such motion has been lodged. Do members have any comments on the guidance? As I am not seeing anyone wanting to comment, does the committee agree that it does not wish to make any recommendations in relation to the document?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
We are agreed. That concludes our public meeting and we will now go into private session.
10:47 Meeting continued in private until 11:29.Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
Is it not disingenuous to put it in the report that you gave to Parliament that that was one of the reasons for the delay, when the delay should have been identified, or was identified, over 18 months ago? I humbly suggest that, if you had started addressing it 18 months ago, the delay might not have existed.
10:15Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
Item 2 is a decision on whether to take items 5, 6 and 7 in private. Item 5 is to consider the stakeholders’ views on “Scotland’s Guiding Principles On The Environment: Statutory Guidance” and the recent Scottish Government report on the effectiveness of environmental governance regulations, item 6 is to consider the evidence we will hear under agenda item 3, and item 7 is to consider whether to seek approval for the appointment of an adviser. Are we happy to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
There are a whole heap of questions, as you would expect. I will start off with an easy one.
Looking back, when you first took over the construction, was it clear that there were serious problems with the construction of the vessel at that stage? Were you clear from day 1, when you moved into the yard, that there were problems?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
When I visited the yard in 2018, there were pipes going up the lift shaft, which would clearly not allow the lift to operate. You identified problems within three months. Why were they not picked up before? I do not understand why, after the yard was nationalised, there appears to have been two years in which the problems could have been dealt with. Is that a fair assessment?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
Are you saying that all the problems with design that you face now fall back to your predecessor?