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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 21 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Edward Mountain

Our next agenda item is consideration of two negative Scottish statutory instruments: the Packaging Waste (Data Reporting) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2024 and the Ethical Standards in Public Life etc (Scotland) Act 2000 (Codes of Conduct for Members of certain Scottish Public Authorities) Amendment Order 2024—I swear that the titles get longer every time.

The instruments have been laid under the negative procedure, which means that their provisions will come into force unless the Parliament agrees to a motion to annul them. No motions to annul have been lodged.

Let us consider the Packaging Waste (Data Reporting) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2024. As the paper by the clerks explains, the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee has drawn the regulations to our attention on the general reporting ground on the basis that the explanatory note was too brief. The Scottish Government responded to that feedback by providing a revised explanatory note for the instrument, which the clerks have included in the papers for this item.

Do members have any comments on the regulations? It would be worth while putting on the record that the quality of the explanatory notes and policy notes from the Scottish Government varies considerably. Some of them are extremely good but, on occasion, the committee has felt that it was not provided with all the information that it required. Perhaps we should make that comment to the Scottish Government but not make any recommendations in relation to the regulations.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the eighth meeting of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee in 2024. We have apologies from Monica Lennon and Sarah Boyack MSP is attending in her place as a Scottish Labour substitute member of the committee. Graham Simpson MSP is also here, primarily to ask questions about ferries. Welcome to you both.

The first item on the agenda is a decision on whether to take in private item 6, which is consideration of the evidence that we will hear under item 4, on ferries. Do we agree to take item 6 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Our next item of business is consideration of a draft Scottish statutory instrument. I am pleased to welcome Gillian Martin, the Minister for Energy, Just Transition and Fair Work. She is joined by Karen Dickson, the Scottish Government official who is responsible for energy and markets policy, and Aedan MacRae, energy markets policy officer. Thank you for joining us today.

The instrument is laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that it cannot ?come ?into force unless the Parliament approves it. Following the evidence session, the committee will be invited, under the next agenda item, to consider a motion that the committee recommend to the Parliament that the instrument be approved. I remind everyone that the officials can speak under this agenda item but not in the debate that follows.

Minister, I think that you want to make a brief opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you, minister. There are a few questions. Deputy convener Ben Macpherson will ask the first one.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Well, I think that CalMac has made it clear that it will take 10 weeks to do the training. If I have misrepresented that, I am sure that I can expect a flurry of emails, but it appears that it ain’t gonna come into service until the end of August at the earliest—assuming that there is somewhere to put the boat and some way of refuelling it.

Before we move on, I want to make an observation and then ask one further question. Earlier this year, the committee questioned you on the Maritime and Coastguard Agency’s obligations and requirements with regard to escape hatches. In fairness, you showed us quite clearly on Friday where those hatches were. As convener of the committee, though, I was disappointed to find myself in the position of having to write, on behalf of the committee, to the Maritime and Coastguard Agency as well as you and the Scottish Government to identify where the problems had arisen and when they were known about. I am not asking you to comment—it will probably suffice to say that I think that there was a certain amount of smoke and mirrors about this, which was extremely disappointing. However, we are where we are.

Can you confirm to me the original design for 801? I need to check my figures, but I think that its capacity was 1,000 passengers, 127 cars and 16 heavy goods vehicles. Will that be the capacity on the Glen Sannox when it is delivered to CMAL in mid-June?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Before we move off that, can I get a bit of clarity? It sounds as if Tim Hair negotiated piecemeal contracts. Are they the sort of contracts that you would negotiate?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

That is not something that you would recommend.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

We will leave that.

Douglas Lumsden has questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Andrew, will you comment on that and remind the committee of the capital investment that you were looking for about a year ago?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Sorry to interrupt, Mark, but I am keen to push our witnesses on the figure. Do you have a figure for capex for the small ferries programme?