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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

I will allow this to continue, but I am putting it on the record that I am pretty sure that I remember the contract and the specifications. I ask you to be careful, Mr Doris, because you are pushing slightly on something that you are saying might be incorrect. I will research it afterwards and we will come together again.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Does any member want to make any comments post those that they made earlier? No one does. Good. Minister, I will give you the opportunity to sum up if you feel that you would like to.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Welcome back, everyone. Our next item of business is an evidence-taking session with Ferguson Marine (Port Glasgow) Ltd, following the company’s latest quarterly update on the MV Glen Sannox, or hull 801, and MV Glen Rosa, or hull 802.

I am very pleased to welcome from Ferguson Marine: Andrew Miller, chairman; Simon Cunningham, non-executive director and chairman of the audit and risk committee; and David Tydeman, chief executive officer. Thank you for joining us this morning—I am sure that your attendance is voluntary.

I would also like to put on record that Jackie Dunbar and I, on behalf of the committee, visited the yard on Friday, and I thank the witnesses for hosting us. The visit was extremely interesting from our point of view. Indeed, having first looked at the ferries many years ago and having followed their progress for a considerable amount of time on the various committees that I have been on—probably more than any other individual MSP, I suspect—I found it very interesting to see where they had got to. Thank you.

I also welcome to the meeting Graham Simpson, who, as I said, is joining us for this session. He will be able to ask some questions at the end.

Before we move on to members’ questions, I invite Andrew Miller to make a brief opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much. I think that I met you at Prestwick airport when we were discussing the £43 million or thereby that had been put into it.

David Tydeman, I will give you the opportunity to make a statement, too. It was disappointing not to get your update until yesterday, as we had been looking for it on Friday. However, I think that what it is telling us is that the Glen Sannox will cost more money and be delivered slightly—marginally—later and that, because of the lessons learned, hull 802 might be slightly cheaper, if slightly later, too. Do I have that right or wrong?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Okay. I will come back to the issue of the passengers, but can you confirm that, if you have 127 cars on the ferry, you will still have scope to have 16 HGVs?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

My concern is that the original tender documents that went out to all the yards specified, as you rightly say, up to 1,000 passengers. Some of the bid returns were for ferries with fewer passengers and vehicles, and they would have been built more cheaply and more quickly, but we are now in a situation where things are taking considerably longer and costing considerably more money, and we have fewer passengers, potentially fewer cars and potentially fewer HGVs. If I were an islander, I would be pretty angsty about that. Would you not be?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

When 802 is handed over, you will be responsible for 12 months’ warranty.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

That speaks to the importance of keeping Ferguson Marine afloat. Otherwise, there would be no one to fulfil the warranty. Maybe that will be more expensive. Anyway, on that happy note, we will move on to some questions from Mark Ruskell.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Is your underlying message that, if the Government does not invest in those items, you will not be as cheap as other people are in respect of building small ferries? Have I completely misunderstood that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 27 February 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you. That is what I was after.