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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Edward Mountain
Amendment 27, in the name of Patrick Harvie, is in a group on its own.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Edward Mountain
That was very succinct. No other members wish to contribute. Cabinet secretary—over to you.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Edward Mountain
I call Graham Simpson to speak to amendment 22 in the absence of Maurice Golden, who has had to go to another meeting.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Edward Mountain
I invite Graham Simpson to speak to amendment 21, in the name of Maurice Golden, and other amendments in the group.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Edward Mountain
I would love to be the cabinet secretary but I am not. I will take “convener”.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Edward Mountain
We will now go through a series of decisions on amendments. I will do it slowly in the hope that we will all get it right, having been recharged at lunch.
Amendment 18 not moved.
Amendment 21 moved—[Graham Simpson]—and agreed to.
Amendment 56 moved—[Sarah Boyack]—and agreed to.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Edward Mountain
Amendment 19, in the name of Mark Ruskell, was debated with amendment 55. As previously advised, although amendment 19 can be moved, the question on it cannot be put. I call on Mark Ruskell to move or not move the amendment.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Edward Mountain
I invite Patrick Harvie to wind up and indicate whether he wishes to press or withdraw amendment 17.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Edward Mountain
There were a lot of amendments to the 2019 act—I seem to remember sitting in the committee and dealing with more than 100 amendments on the workplace parking levy alone—so the fact that this was a failed system might have gone slightly under the radar. How long would it take the Government, if it were so minded, to bring forward primary legislation to change this very minor part of the 2019 act? I think that we are talking about section 38.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 October 2024
Edward Mountain
Good morning, and welcome to the 31st meeting in 2024 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. The first agenda item for consideration is evidence on the Local Services Franchises (Traffic Commissioner Notices and Panels) (Scotland) Regulations 2024. The instrument is subject to the negative procedure, which means that it will become law unless it is annulled.
We first considered the instrument on 8 October, when we noted concerns that had been raised about bus franchising panels and we agreed to seek further evidence. Because of the limited time, we wrote to five organisations and individuals, including the Scottish Government, and I thank them all for writing back. Their responses are included in the papers.
Douglas Lumsden has lodged a motion to annul the instrument. Before we have the formal debate on the motion, we will have an evidence session with the minister and his officials that will give us an opportunity to ask questions or seek clarification on the basis of the evidence that we have received. For the record, given the interest in the item and in our provision of local bus services, I state that I had already asked the Scottish Government to give evidence before Douglas Lumsden lodged his motion.
I welcome Jim Fairlie, the Minister for Agriculture and Connectivity; Sharon Wood, bus policy manager for Transport Scotland; Kevin Gibson, a lawyer for the Scottish Government; and Bridget Bryden, bus regulatory policy team leader for Transport Scotland—that is a snappy title. Thank you very much for joining us. I will give the minister a few minutes to make a brief opening statement.