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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

I understand that, if you hire a car, you are responsible for it. However, there are lots of other situations. For example, within a family, if the registered keeper was a parent but it was their child who was racking up the fines, the parent would be the one who would cop it. Are you happy with that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you; that is useful. Some parliamentarians—I put myself in that bracket—are very nervous about framework bills, which leave a lot of things to be agreed after the legislation comes into force. To my mind, that does not allow for full parliamentary scrutiny. Are you concerned as I am, or are you happy that this is a framework bill and that the meat will come later?

I will start in the middle of the panel and work my way outwards. Michael Cook, you are just about in the middle.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you. Monica, do you have a question that you want to ask?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

This is a technical question. The fine is issued to the person who owns the vehicle that gets the parking ticket, although they may not be the operator of the vehicle. Is there an ability to pass the fine on to the person who was operating the vehicle, or is it up to the owner of the vehicle to pay the fine and try to get the money back?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Is it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Welcome back. Our next item of business is an evidence session with environmental advocacy groups as part of our stage 1 scrutiny of the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill.

I am pleased to welcome Phoebe Cochrane, who is the sustainable economics officer at Scottish Environment LINK; Michael Cook, who is the chief executive officer of Circular Communities Scotland; James Mackenzie, who is the circular economy advisor at Action to Protect Rural Scotland; and Kim Pratt, who is a circular economy campaigner from Friends of the Earth Scotland. Thank you for joining us today and for submitting evidence in response to the committee’s call for views. I also welcome Murdo Fraser MSP, who is joining us in connection with a specific aspect of the bill.

We have allowed up to 75 minutes for this agenda item and we will move straight to questions from committee members. I will kick off with an easy question and will give each witness an opportunity to answer. You will not get the opportunity to answer every question, but the first one is easy. Is it useful to have a circular economy strategy as part of the bill, and should that be in the bill rather than something that is produced later?

James Mackenzie, would you like to begin?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Edward Mountain

I completely understand that. I am trying to work out in my brain whether the 2035 target that you have proposed is remotely achievable.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Edward Mountain

That is slightly off the topic, Douglas. I encourage the minister to respond to you afterwards, on that separate subject, but I want to keep the focus on the instrument that we are looking at. I think that you have pushed that topic as far as you can, for the moment.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Edward Mountain

The cost is estimated to be £6.2 billion, of which, at the moment, you have put up £300 million. Is that right?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Therefore, the rest will come from the private sector.