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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

We are very short on time. I have to balance your right to give me an answer and committee members’ requirement to ask questions. I will go to Mark Ruskell, who is online, and perhaps you will get a chance to answer when he asks his question.

Mark, I think that you have some questions. Do you?

Have I wrongfooted him, or have we lost connection? On the basis that we have—[Interruption.] Mark, did you have follow-up questions?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

That is the perfect place to leave this discussion, because I saw everyone round the table nodding their heads in agreement, and it is always nice to end on a note of agreement.

Thank you very much for your expertise. Our next step will be to consider the evidence that we have heard and to take further evidence from ESS at our meeting on 5 March. We will hold an evidence session with the Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Net Zero and Just Transition in the near future, after the Government has published its response to the consultation.

I ask the witnesses to stay put while we complete the next short item on our agenda.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

That concludes the public part of our meeting.

12:03 Meeting continued in private until 12:26.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you.

Bob, make this your last question, please.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Having mentioned that, Douglas, do you want to make a declaration of interest to remind committee members of your previous role?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

The committee will report on the outcome of the instrument in due course, and I invite the committee to delegate authority to me, as convener, to finalise the report for publication. Is the committee happy with that?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Welcome back. Our next item of business is an evidence session?on environmental governance in Scotland. In June last year, the Scottish Government published its report on the effectiveness of environmental governance arrangements, as required by section 41 of the UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Continuity) (Scotland) Act 2021. The committee has since agreed to carry out a short assessment of the state of environmental governance in Scotland.

This morning, we will hear from a panel of environmental stakeholders and law practitioners on the Scottish Government’s report and environmental governance in Scotland more broadly. I am pleased to welcome Lloyd Austin, convener of the governance group, Scottish Environment LINK; Dr Shivali Fifield, chief officer, Environmental Rights Centre for Scotland; Professor Sarah Hendry, Dundee law school, University of Dundee; Bridget Marshall, chief officer, Scottish Environment Protection Agency; Professor Simon Parsons, director of environment, planning and assurance, Scottish Water; and, joining us remotely, Jamie Whittle, convener of the environmental law sub-committee, Law Society of Scotland.

Thank you for joining us today. We have an hour and a bit for this session. Before we move to questions from committee members, for fear of upsetting you all, I point out that, because it is quite a large panel, you might not get to answer every question. I invite committee members to target their questions at the people from whom they want answers.

However, I will give everyone a chance to answer the first question, because it is my question. Please do not overegg the response, but it is fair to say that concerns have been raised by stakeholders about how the Scottish Government approached the 2023 environmental governance review, which was a requirement of the 2021 act. Has the Scottish Government provided enough detail in the review? If not, what has it not provided detail on?

Lloyd, I will start with you and will come to Jamie Whittle last. By the way, if Lloyd gives all the answers on the points that you want to raise, you can just say, “Lloyd is correct.”

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I accept that. I am asking how other local transport authorities will be able to take the plan forward if you are not giving them any money.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Jamie Whittle, are you going to break ranks and say that the Government’s review is brilliant?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I am sorry, deputy convener, but Sarah Hendry is keen to come in on that point, as is Lloyd Austin. I have opened a floodgate, but Sarah Hendry has been waiting patiently.