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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 January 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

The committee must now produce its report on the draft instrument. Is the committee content to delegate to me as convener the responsibility to agree the report on behalf of the committee?

Members indicated agreement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

Wales is not saying that there are zero, but that it cannot provide figures.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

So, it is not an issue with the Welsh Government not sharing or anything like that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

Good morning, and welcome to the first meeting in 2026 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee.

The first item on our agenda is consideration of subordinate legislation that is subject to the affirmative procedure. The committee will take evidence from the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills and her Scottish Government officials on two draft instruments, and the cabinet secretary will then move the motions to approve the instruments.

I welcome Jenny Gilruth, the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills, and her officials Jaxon Parish, who works on Qualifications Scotland policy in the education reform directorate, and Judith Brown, who is a solicitor in the legal directorate.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make an opening statement on the instruments.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

I am thinking of the Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill, which Natalie Don-Innes brought forward. I know that you recused yourself from discussion of the Promise, but you will be aware of discussions that have been held on the issue in Cabinet. One of the big issues that came out of our consideration of that piece of legislation was that stakeholder after stakeholder was concerned about the fact that the way in which the bill had been drafted by the education department—similarly to what other departments in the Scottish Government have done—meant that elements of it were not compatible with the UNCRC. Given that it is important for you to state that SSIs such as those before us are compatible, why is new legislation that your department and your Government are bringing forward not compatible?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

Again, there are no further questions from members, so I invite the cabinet secretary to move motion S6M-19852.

Motion moved,

That the Education, Children and Young People Committee recommends that the Official Statistics (Scotland) Amendment Order 2026 [draft] be approved.—[Jenny Gilruth]

Motion agreed to.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

Thank you. I now invite the minister to move motion S6M-19990.

Motion moved,

That the Education, Children and Young People Committee recommends that the Cross-border Placement of Children (Requirements, Effect and Enforcement) (Scotland) Regulations 2026 [draft] be approved.—[Natalie Don-Innes]

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

I raised this issue with the cabinet secretary on her SSIs. Your policy note clearly states that this SSI is compatible with the UNCRC. However, you will remember the significant discussions that we had on the Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill—the Promise bill—which you introduced.

Where is the Government, and where are you as a minister, on the compatibility with the UNCRC of legislation that is coming forward? I am talking not only about the Promise bill but about other bills that witnesses raised concerns about in relation to the issue.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

I will move the discussion away from the Promise bill, because I understand the complexities that the cabinet secretary is, quite rightly, faced with in that regard. However, we heard the same concerns in relation to—I think—the Housing (Scotland) Bill and other pieces of legislation. Surely solicitors in the Scottish Government, cabinet secretaries and ministers must be hearing the same evidence that this committee and other committees are hearing, which is that bills are being introduced that—as witnesses tell us—are not compatible with the UNCRC. Is every witness from those different spheres wrong and the Government right? Is the Government taking on board those concerns? If so, what is it doing about them?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Douglas Ross

To go back a bit, Ms Brown, do we not have figures for Wales because there are no transfers from Wales, or is it because that information is not shared?