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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 March 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Liz Smith

Good morning. I would like some clarity on a point that you mentioned in the previous session, when you helpfully spelled out why it is much easier to make calculations for the police and fire service because they are single employers, whereas for the NHS and teachers, you are having to deal with a multitude of employers, which is much more difficult. However, on the back of that, I received correspondence from a number of constituents who were anxious. Ms Graham said that:

“We have started running a programme to see how we can gather our information from the NHS and teachers’ employers in a different way. We have moved forward in the past year to be able to start planning the move to a different process, but we need to wait until we are through the remedy work to enable us to do it.” —[Official Report, Finance and Public Administration Committee, 2 December 2025; c 23.]

That implied to the constituents who wrote to me that it would take an awfully long time. Is that correct?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Liz Smith

This is not the place to go into individual cases, so I will not do that, but it is important to put on the record that people are awaiting very specific responses to the questions that they have asked. Despite your efforts to ensure that information is provided through newsletters, videos or whatever it might be, there are people out there who do not have answers to specific questions.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Liz Smith

There has definitely been some progress—I understand and appreciate that. The point, as I think that we mentioned at the end of the previous evidence session, is to try to rebuild trust between the SPPA and the people who are awaiting their pensions. The issue is that such trust is elusive for too many of them at the moment, because they do not feel that the SPPA is responding to their specific inquiries.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Liz Smith

Thank you for that. I heard Mr Nairns’s earlier answer, but can you understand how this feels for people who are awaiting their pension? When you say that you need to wait until you have worked through the remedy before you can proceed, the implication is that it will take considerable additional time. Therefore, I want to ask about communication with those who are awaiting their pensions. Perhaps clearer language could be used to help them to understand the specific problem. Like Mr Marra and Mr Mason, I have had quite a few concerns raised with me. Many people feel let down and do not really know what will happen next.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Liz Smith

The question was about that. I understand what Frances Graham has said to the committee. In no way is this an easy problem to solve—it is not. However, for those people who are waiting in difficult circumstances to make decisions about life choices and so on, it goes to the heart of their issue. The communication has created a degree of vagueness and a lack of clarity, which makes them feel more anxious. I suggest that we should improve the clarity of communication with people who anxiously await their payment.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 17 March 2026

Liz Smith

I will put on the record that, like Mr Marra, I have a constituent who works for the NHS who has not received any communication for a period of time, which is simply not good enough.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Liz Smith

In what respect?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Liz Smith

Is that a recognition that the current Scottish Government has not been able to afford all the priorities that it has set out and that some of the difficult choices that have, undoubtedly, been made have not been enough to ensure fiscal sustainability?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Liz Smith

Do you understand, as permanent secretary, why there might be questions raised about that situation not standing up to the impartiality that we expect of the civil service?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Spending Review and Infrastructure Delivery Pipeline 2026

Meeting date: 10 March 2026

Liz Smith

We probably could debate that for another couple of hours, but I do not want to do that.

My next question relates to a comment that you made to the convener when he asked you about the social value that you get from public money when making your spending plans. Do you feel that the evidence behind the choices that you make is sufficiently available to the Parliament and, more important, to the public, so that we can understand why the Government has selected specific priorities and not chosen to do other things that many people would like it to do? Is that evidence sufficiently strong?