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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Liz Smith

—the older generation.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Liz Smith

Indeed.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Liz Smith

Assuming that the amount is positive—I know that there is a lot of debate about that—if the money was spent on teachers or on improving resources in the state sector in England and Wales, am I correct in thinking that Barnett consequentials would flow from that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Liz Smith

Thank you. That was helpful.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Liz Smith

Good morning. I have a point of clarification that follows on from Michael Marra’s question. You made it clear that the Scottish Government has not provided you with a public sector pay policy. Have you expressed concern to the Scottish Government about that? If so, when was that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Liz Smith

Yes, it is obviously putting considerable pressure on the social security budget. What about people who are economically inactive and do not have disabilities or health issues? Do you have any idea of the policies that will make a difference to getting them back into the labour market? Obviously that has a huge implication for increasing productivity and, in the long run, economic growth.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Liz Smith

That is a very fair point. I put it on the record that you have been a wonderful champion for disability groups in all their differences.

To finish, I will pick up on the point that the convener raised—that there is potential for considerable overlap in the commissioners that we currently have. Some disabled people are children, and some older disabled people are patients. How would you address the potential for such overlaps, which could be financially as well as administratively difficult?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Liz Smith

May I offer a view in relation to the patient safety commissioner? In my opinion, the demand for that commissioner came about because of failings in health boards. I speak with considerable experience of the Eljamel situation; people affected by that are very clear that they want a patient safety commissioner. That has come about because of failures in a particular health board. To my mind, a commissioner is not necessarily going to solve that problem. You have to go to the root of the problem, which is about the way in which the health board was being run. To reflect on that from the angle of the need for a disability commissioner, are there problems that we could solve about the delivery of public services that do not really need a commissioner but could be addressed through other aspects of the delivery of public services?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Liz Smith

Good morning, Mr Balfour. In looking at the whole question of commissioners, we have looked at those who have a regulatory role, those who are complaints commissioners, those whose role is investigatory and those who are advocacy commissioners. Commissioners have a broad range of roles.

One of the interesting things that the committee is facing is that the increasing demand for commissioners—as in your proposal—relates much more to the advocacy role. That has led us and some witnesses to question whether the demand for advocacy is increasing because the existing public services and facilities that are available to support people are not doing their job adequately. I ask you to reflect on whether that is the case for a proposed disability commissioner—namely, that public services are not looking after disabled people very well. If the answer is that they are not looking after them very well, is that related to cost or to a lack of understanding of the role that they should have—or perhaps both?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Liz Smith

That is a valid point, and constituents in some of my areas in Mid Scotland and Fife have made exactly that point. However, do you think that that difficult scenario—you are quite right to say that, in some cases, that approach means that those in disability groups are housebound for that period—comes about because of a local authority’s failure to address the problem adequately and because of certain cutbacks? Earlier, you mentioned Covid, which, as we all know, has been a particularly difficult period for local authorities with regard to their financial arrangements. The point is whether we can solve those genuine issues by looking at the services that are provided by local authorities and, in some cases, by the Scottish Government, rather than by having a commissioner. That is the key question.