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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Proposed National Outcomes

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Liz Smith

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Proposed National Outcomes

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Liz Smith

I presume that that relationship has to be mended if we are to move forward.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Proposed National Outcomes

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Liz Smith

I want to pursue the question of why, when the NPF was first introduced, there seemed to be considerable commitment to it. It was mentioned in different documents. Indeed, at our away day two years ago, I think, we spoke to Dundee councillors and people working in various local authorities who were very keen on the framework and were making quite a strong link between what they were delivering in local authorities and the framework itself. Why has it slid away from people’s interest? What has happened to take it from being very prominent to not being mentioned at all?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Proposed National Outcomes

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Liz Smith

Why do you think that the three documents are not talking to each other? Where does the problem of the lack of coherency lie?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 17 September 2024

Liz Smith

My question builds on what Heather Williams and Michael Kellet just said about economic inactivity. One of the considerable concerns that we have in Scotland is the number of people who are economically inactive; that is partly for health reasons, but there are also a lot of people who do not have health reasons and are not persuaded back into the labour force. Heather Williams mentioned childcare improvements. Do the witnesses have any suggestions about what else we have to do to persuade more people to come back into the workforce?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Liz Smith

Mr Lonsdale, I come to your submission. You have already spoken to the convener about different taxes that are coming in. You also say something really interesting:

“The devolution of these”—

meaning taxes—

“to local authorities appears to have been done in a piecemeal fashion”.

You strike up a contrast, saying:

“A kaleidoscope of differing local taxes may help plug gaps in councils’ finances. However, it can add complexity and cost to the operations of businesses and make budgeting trickier”.

This morning, we have been trying to find tax structures that are a bit more efficient. What would you like to happen to ensure that we do not have inconsistency and incoherence across the different types of tax, which is—in your view—knocking consumers?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Liz Smith

I follow those developments regularly. I think that you are suggesting that, as things stand, the lack of coherence and there being too much inconsistency is creating a bit of a disincentive for consumers rather than adding the competitive edge that you would like to see, which would make businesses flourish. The Federation of Small Businesses is saying much the same.

Let me turn to Mr Lott. When the committee visited the University of Dundee, as you mentioned in your remarks, we heard a lot of really good things, and we were privileged to see some absolutely groundbreaking research. However, we also heard quite a lot about the difficulties that universities are having in attracting the people they need to attract. In part, that is because of visa issues, for which my party was partly responsible, but it is also because of the situation in some universities whereby it is much more difficult to bring your family.

Is Universities Scotland getting quite a lot of evidence on that? What do you suggest should happen to mitigate that? We desperately need those people in our world-class universities in order to improve the research side of things.

11:30  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Liz Smith

I know. It is an important one, though.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Liz Smith

We discussed this last week, too. Part of the issue is economic inactivity and the reasons behind that. Some of those reasons, including mental health issues, are justified post-Covid, but quite a large amount of inactivity is among people who could be at work but who, for one reason or another, have chosen not to work. We have heard of various places, Dundee being one, where they are quite keen to get people back into the labour market, for obvious reasons. Are we doing enough to promote policies that will do that and do we have enough information to show what is working?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Liz Smith

Do we know why the UK’s record on that is not as good as that of other countries? Do we have evidence of the reason for that?