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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Liz Smith

Does the £12 million all relate to staffing costs, or does it include a set-up cost as well? It seems quite a high figure.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Liz Smith

I really want to ask about the transparency angle. Ms Hughes helpfully told us that a lot of work has been done to improve transparency through things such as better comparators.

Mr Maidment will remember a discussion that we had in the equivalent meeting at this time last year, when there was a bit of back and forth about whether the £31 million that was taken out of the rural affairs budget was ring fenced or not. If my memory serves me correctly, I think that Mr Maidment said that £14 million of that £31 million was ring fenced, but we had a bit of a debate about what ring fencing was taking place and what was being repurposed in other areas of the budget.

Are we any clearer about the decision making that goes on in relation to what is ring fenced and what is not? In relation to Michelle Thomson’s questions, it would help our understanding of transparency if we could get a bit more detail on the reasons—the rationale—behind the Scottish Government’s decisions to repurpose spending or to ensure that it is ring fenced, especially if it has been taken out of a particular budget and is supposed to be put back.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Liz Smith

Yes, I do.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2024

Liz Smith

I have no issues with the instrument whatsoever; the Conservatives are very happy with it. However, cabinet secretary, I would like to probe a little bit further into some of the issues that arise from this kind of situation. In doing so, I go back to what you said at stage 1 of the Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill and, indeed, what the committee convener said at that time, which is that we have to ensure value for money. We get value for money if we have an effective impact assessment of the changes that we make to any of these things, and that, in turn, is determined by the data that is available.

You will be aware that, this morning, the Finance and Public Administration Committee has put out a very robust report on the need for much greater transparency and fiscal probity in the public finances. What is the Scottish Government doing to ensure that the measurement of the impacts of changes that are made in the social security brief helps those most in need and that we have the right data to assess that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2024

Liz Smith

That was very helpful, because this is a huge area. The Scottish Fiscal Commission’s predictions with regard to fiscal spend over the next 50 years, whether it be in social security, social care or health, paint a pretty alarming picture. To ensure greater fiscal probity, we need to understand where the money is best spent, and that means that we—and this committee in particular—have to be able to assess where the impact is being felt and ensure that the data underlying all that is as accurate as possible. Any efforts that the Scottish Government can make to inform the committee of any gaps in the data would therefore be very helpful.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2024

Liz Smith

I do not disagree with you, cabinet secretary, but I note that, in its most recent report, the Joseph Rowntree Foundation makes the point that it is quite difficult to measure a policy—one that it entirely approves of, as does the committee—its impact, whether it is delivering a better outcome and whether it is good management of public finances. That is quite important as the committee deliberates various social security policies.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 31 October 2024

Liz Smith

I have no relevant interest to declare, convener, but I look forward to being on the committee.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Liz Smith

I absolutely understand that. I am asking—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Liz Smith

Yes. There were concerns in some of the written submissions that, because of behavioural change, the levy could have some impact on land prices. However, it was made clear in the Governments’ joint response that that is not the case. What evidence do you have that it will not have any major impact?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Liz Smith

It is an important issue. The nature of taxation is that there are behavioural changes as a result of any tax change, and elasticities to go with that. From what you have set out, cabinet secretary, I am not particularly opposed to the tax, but I think that the committee would like to see the evidence on which statements are based. If the change is not to have any major impact, we would like to see the evidence on that.