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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Liz Smith

I will push you on that, because I think that it is very important that we see that evidence.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Liz Smith

I am not questioning the decisions or the criteria that you have set out—there is just a bit of a contradiction here. The process is supposed to be much more user friendly and much easier; at the same time, however, your own survey is saying that people in receipt of adult disability and child disability payments are not finding it particularly easy, compared with the process for other benefits. Can you explain why that is?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Liz Smith

I am just trying to get to the answer to this mystery.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Liz Smith

Okay.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Liz Smith

That was helpful. Do you know from your discussions with the DWP whether it is having similar problems with the application process?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Liz Smith

I want to turn your attention to the client experience of disability benefits. Quoting the “Measuring Our Charter” results, the excellent SPICe briefing, to which you have already referred, says that

“those in receipt of ADP and CDP were much less likely to say”

that

“they got”

sufficient

“updates, that the application”

process

“was easy to understand”,

that they answered relevant questions as part of it, and that the application was

“processed within a reasonable time.”

We have been over that last point, but I want to focus on the application process itself. In the current budget, £450 million is being spent on child disability benefit, and that figure is projected to go up to £618 million in the next budget, an increase of 37 per cent. Why is there such an increase when, as it says in our papers, people are finding the application process quite difficult?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Liz Smith

Thank you.

There are no more questions from me, convener, but I would just go back to the point that Mr Balfour made earlier. When it comes to our deciding on best policy, what do you think are the benefits that are working most effectively to deliver on the ambition that you have set out? It is important that we get the right data and that we can use good quantitative as well as qualitative measurements of what is most effective. That was my final point.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Liz Smith

I understand that, but that said, there must be a reason for such an increase in the number of people making an application.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Liz Smith

I am sorry to interrupt, but are you talking about May 2024?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Liz Smith

I just want to interrogate that further. Are you saying that the reason for the very substantial increase in the amount of money that is having to be disbursed to those receiving, in this case, child disability payment is that the process is much longer and more problematic, as you have just described, or is it that far more families with children are making the application? That is an important distinction when we look at the policy’s effectiveness.