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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Liz Smith

In your experience, would that discussion be had between the Scottish Government and a proposed chair?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Liz Smith

That is helpful. Lord Hardie, the terms of reference of any public inquiry are primarily for the Scottish Government to decide. In some inquiries, those who are affected by the inquiry, plus the chair of the inquiry and their team, will have input to those terms of reference. I think that I am right in saying that we have had three inquiries—Penrose, child abuse, and Covid—in which the terms of reference have changed over time because certain evidence has come out and there has been a case for making a change. Are we often under pressure to change the terms of reference, because of the difficulties with some public inquiries?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Liz Smith

If it were to be the case that the terms of reference had proven not to be sufficient to allow evidence from another jurisdiction to be taken into consideration, would that matter have to come back to the chair of the Scottish inquiry, to be discussed with the Scottish ministers?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Liz Smith

That is very helpful, thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Care Reform (Scotland) Bill: Financial Summary

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Liz Smith

Given that on-going co-design, can I ask the minister what kind of amendments she is expecting at stage 3?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Care Reform (Scotland) Bill: Financial Summary

Meeting date: 27 May 2025

Liz Smith

The Government has made great play of the co-design principle—which, I note, is still one of the underlying principles behind the change. At the start, minister, both you and your predecessor, Kevin Stewart, made a great play of the co-design. What went wrong that led to such a substantial change being made to the proposed legislation?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Liz Smith

To make that decision, we also need the right information.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Liz Smith

Yes. The Scottish Legal Aid Board made the point that it has powers to use discretion. In its evidence to the committee, it commented that that fact is not necessarily very well known, but it also said that, in order for it to be able to use that discretion effectively—to ensure that people are getting the help that they need—it needs to know an awful lot more information about the claimant. Therefore, some of the questioning might be a bit more intrusive, because it has to deal with sensitive issues to ensure that people get that help, but, at the same time, one of the founding principles of the Scottish Government’s social security system is to be less intrusive. Could you comment on that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Liz Smith

We also heard from the Scottish Legal Aid Board that, in some instances, there are barriers for people who are applying for civil court orders. Does the Scottish Government have a view on supporting automatic civil legal aid for that kind of situation?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Liz Smith

Again, it was a point that came up from the Scottish Legal Aid Board’s evidence. The whole basis for that approach is to make things as easy as possible and ensure that those who are most in need get the support and benefits that they require. At the moment, there seems to be a grey area—let us call it that—as to how we go about that. That has come right through the evidence that we have taken, and it is about ensuring not just that the Scottish Government is aware of all that but that, through its various agencies, it can address some of those concerns. The big conundrum is that compassion is all very well, but, if that approach does not drill down on the information that we need, we will not get very far.