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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 June 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Graham Simpson

Absolutely. The consultation addresses that point. I encourage Daniel Johnson to take part in it.

I have gone over the time allocated to me—I did not expect to do that. It has been a fascinating debate and I look forward to engaging with the committee.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Graham Simpson

How refreshing to hear an SNP back bencher say that. Yes, I agree with that.

Presiding Officer, you said at the start—

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Graham Simpson

I completely agree. Mr Kerr could take a lead on that in our own party and perhaps introduce some reforms in our whip’s office to allow more spontaneity. I look forward to that happening.

I wanted to speak today because I will be launching a consultation on a member’s bill in January. One aspect of the bill cuts right across some of the issues that we are discussing today. If the bill gets beyond the consultation stage, it will eventually come to the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee.

There are several aspects to the bill, but I will discuss just one. I want to replicate the situation in councils: if councillors do not turn up for work or do not do any work for six months, they can be removed as councillors. That is a matter of law, but it is not one that applies to MSPs. It struck me that that is entirely wrong. If someone effectively decides to stop work, they should not be allowed to do that job.

That simple idea occurred to me before the pandemic. Since then, we have changed the way that we work. However, I have proceeded with the bill, and the consultation will deal with some of the issues that we have discussed today. A big question now is what constitutes work. It was quite easy before—we just had to turn up, vote or take part in proceedings here—but now it is not so simple. The consultation paper will raise those questions. I encourage all members who have taken part in today’s debate, since they obviously have a keen interest, to contribute, because I am interested to hear people’s views.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Graham Simpson

Yes, it is up to six minutes.

I am not on the whip in this debate, which is a rarity. We would not often come across any speaker in this Parliament who is not on the whip. Normally, in my group, Stephen Kerr chooses who gets to speak and who does not. I was not on the list for this debate, so I had to approach the Presiding Officer, and your good office said that I could speak. That does not normally happen. That seems entirely wrong to me. When I saw the topic of the debate, I felt that I had something to contribute. All parties need to look at their practices and allow members in that position to do so.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Graham Simpson

Just a sec—allow me to make this point at least.

The Presiding Officer mentioned the time limit at the start of my speech, Stephen Kerr mentioned spontaneity and Daniel Johnson mentioned the issue, too. MSPs are very often limited by time. I think that they write out their speeches so that they can fit in with that time. If we were to be more flexible—

Stephen Kerr rose—

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Graham Simpson

Mr Whitfield wanted in first.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Graham Simpson

That idea is worth looking at, because the more members that contribute, the better. One of the good things about this debate so far is that we have heard a lot of really good contributions. Interventions have been made because people have not felt constrained by time.

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid)

Parliamentary Procedures and Practices

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Graham Simpson

That is extremely generous, Presiding Officer—I was not at all planning on speaking for six minutes.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Made Affirmative Procedure Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Graham Simpson

Thank you. That takes us seamlessly back to the convener.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Made Affirmative Procedure Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Graham Simpson

I want to ask a quick question on the subject of urgency. If we were to develop—[Interruption.] I am sorry, but my camera keeps going; I will have to hold it in position.

If we were to develop a procedure whereby a minister has to justify why something is urgent, we could imagine any minister considering the process as just something that they have to do, or a bit of a tick-box exercise. They might have to go along to some bothersome committee, but they will just get through it and, at the end of the day, if they decide that something is urgent, then it is urgent. Should we build into any system the power of veto for Parliament and/or a committee?

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