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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 October 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Absolutely not. I am just using him as an example of someone who has switched parties in the current parliamentary session.

09:30  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

I see what you mean. I will go back to what I said earlier. If a member is subject to recall, it is likely to mean a good deal of publicity. They will have done something pretty bad. Any regional member who might not be widely known will suddenly become widely known—that can pretty much be guaranteed.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

I do not think that it works that way.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Oh, no—definitely not.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Yes, but you have asked me about constituency members, and what you have tried to do in your question is conflate the regional element with what happens for constituencies. If a constituency member decides to stand down, there is a by-election. If a regional member decides to stand down, there is no by-election; they are simply replaced. If we were to conflate the two, we might have to revisit the Scottish Elections (Representation and Reform) (Scotland) Act 2025, and I am not sure that Jamie Hepburn would be too happy about that.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

I genuinely do not understand the point that you are making.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

No, absolutely not—10 per cent is not enough to kick somebody out of a Parliament.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

If the person won the recall vote, I guess that they would sit as an independent.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Let us deal with the financial element first. Obviously, there have been conflicting views—the figures that I have put forward are different from the Government’s figures. I will bring in Ben McKendrick, who did a lot of work on that. He can perhaps explain how we arrived at those figures.

09:45  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Some of that will be left to regulations—indeed, quite a lot of the bill allows the Government to make regulations. If we are talking about regional provision, I have said that there should be up to 10 signing places. Ben, am I right in saying that it is up to 10 across the region?