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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 May 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Graham Simpson

Will the minister take an intervention?

Meeting of the Parliament

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Graham Simpson

Does Douglas Lumsden have any idea what a 20-minute neighbourhood is? Because I do not.

Meeting of the Parliament

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Graham Simpson

It is an absolute pleasure to take part in the debate today. The very fact we are having the debate is down to amendments for which I was responsible and which were voted through during the passage of the Planning (Scotland) Bill in the previous parliamentary session. Members might do well to reflect on the fact that, if that bill was going through Parliament now, I do not think that those amendments would get through. However, it is good that they did.

Kevin Stewart was the minister responsible for the bill, and it was certainly a stressful time for him. We ended up with a bill that was better than it was at the start, although it was not perfect, and I think that that is where we are today with NPF4.

The first draft NPF4 was flawed in many ways. The final version is better, although it still has some holes in it. However, we have in Tom Arthur—for whom I have a lot of time—a minister who has listened and made changes for the better. Any minister who does that should be praised, and I do praise him, but in planning, as he knows, we can never please everyone.

I will start with the good bits. I strongly believe that the planning system has not been robust enough when it comes to protecting the environment, particularly in three areas: woodland, wild land and the green belt. Wording matters when it comes to planning policy, and woolly wording provides developers and landowners with loopholes that they can exploit. Paul Sweeney made reference to that. The first draft of NPF4 would have made it too easy for woods to be erased and for wild land to be built on.

I met the John Muir Trust and the Woodland Trust—of which I am a member—to discuss what we could propose to the minister to make the wording better. We came up with something, and I sent the wording to Mr Arthur. Mr Briggs and I then had a virtual meeting with him and one of his officials. I heard nothing after that, but the revised draft is considerably better and people are generally happy, because the wording is better than it was.

However, policy 6c is an example of the woolly wording that I referred to. It says:

“Development proposals involving woodland removal will only be supported where they will achieve significant and clearly defined additional public benefits in accordance with relevant Scottish Government policy on woodland removal.”

Canny developers will be able to argue that their fantastic scheme with footpaths and swing parks will achieve just that, when it will not.

Meeting of the Parliament

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Graham Simpson

I am sure that Mr Ewing is right, but I was referring not necessarily to forests but to areas of woodland, which are slightly different.

The policy goes on to say:

“Where woodland is removed, compensatory planting will most likely be expected to be delivered.”

Most likely? That is pretty meaningless and, in any case, compensatory planting will never be the same as what was there previously. The wording is better, but it is still not quite good enough for me.

The references to wild land are much better, and policy 8 on green belts looks pretty robust. However, in relation to Fergus Ewing’s earlier point about farmers, it should not be the case, as it is at the moment, that farmers have to pretend that new houses are being built for workers in order to get them built.

The planning system can play a huge role in helping to drive down emissions, and I note the gushing response of Scottish Renewables to Mr Arthur’s offering, but I will never agree with the Scottish Government’s view that nuclear should play no part at all in that.

Miles Briggs and others have mentioned the lack of policies to deliver enough housing of the right quality in the right places. A big debating point has been around targets, how to set them and how to ensure that they are then delivered. I have to agree with the house-building industry that there are flaws in NPF4, which will not deliver enough housing. As the RTPI has said, it is vital that enough resources are provided, because councils will have to deliver on all this.

The Planning (Scotland) Act 2019 introduced 49 unfunded duties on councils. Those duties could cost up to £59 million over 10 years to implement, but councils are not being given the money. How on earth are they meant to deliver all Mr Arthur’s exciting policies if they do not have enough planners? The NPF4 is good, but it could be better.

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Meeting of the Parliament

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 11 January 2023

Graham Simpson

Will the member take an intervention?

Meeting of the Parliament

General Question Time

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Graham Simpson

Will the minister accept that it is underfunding of Scotland’s councils that is leading to the deteriorating road network?

Meeting of the Parliament

General Question Time

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Graham Simpson

To ask the Scottish Government how it ensures good governance in Scotland’s colleges. (S6O-01737)

Meeting of the Parliament

General Question Time

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Graham Simpson

The minister will be aware of the situation at South Lanarkshire College, where the highly respected principal, who had been looking into serious allegations of theft and malfeasance, has been suspended on full pay for 13 months. That is not due process in anyone’s book. The college board has still not taken a decision, and the costs are just going to rise.

Does the minister agree with the comments of the college principals group in a letter to the education secretary, which said that

“This raises fundamental issues about good governance and the process relating to how college principals are treated in such circumstances”?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Business Investment

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Graham Simpson

I will be quick. I have a couple of questions for Fergus Mutch and Clare Reid, so the other two are off the hook.

Fergus, I will ask you about your comments on tax rates and the need for Scotland to have a more competitive regime in business and personal tax. Is it the view of the Scottish Chambers of Commerce—I am not asking for your personal view—that Scotland’s having higher personal tax rates is a disincentive to people coming here?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Business Investment

Meeting date: 21 December 2022

Graham Simpson

That modelling would be useful.

There is one other area that I would like to ask you both about. Clare Reid, you mentioned free ports and the delay in the announcement on Scottish green free ports. Fergus Mutch, I notice that you did a survey of your members in Aberdeen and they are asking for a free port in the north-east.

Clare, what do you think the impact of Scotland having two free ports would be on local economies and on the national economy?