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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 December 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Graham Simpson

I was struck by exhibit 11, which is about

“Scottish census results indicating additional demands on ADP.”

It goes through a number of things, such as long-term illness, disease or condition, mental health conditions, physical disability and so on. Between 2011 and 2022, health has got worse in Scotland on all those indicators. How does that compare to the data in England and Wales? Is it the same picture there?

Public Audit Committee

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Graham Simpson

I suppose that it goes back to my first question. Some of the figures are actually quite stark: in 2011, 4.4 per cent of the population had a mental condition, and it was up to 11.3 per cent in 2022; the figures for long-term illness, disease or condition have gone up from 18.7 per cent to 21.4 per cent; and there is even an increase in the percentage of the population with physical disabilities.

If that trend continues, the demands for ADP will increase. If, for some reason, things are managed differently—and improved—in England and Wales, the gap will widen, will it not? Ultimately, it comes down to whether there are other ways to reduce demand that involve making the population healthier.

Public Audit Committee

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Graham Simpson

I have one more question, which is about the redetermination rates for ADP. The rates are higher than they are for PIP, but appeal success rates are lower. What does that tell us about whether ADP decisions are delivering accurate decisions the first time? Does more specific analysis need to be done?

Public Audit Committee

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Graham Simpson

I want to pick up on that interesting line of questioning. If there were changes to PIP that, let us say, made it harder to get PIP, would that increase the budget gap that you describe in your report?

Public Audit Committee

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Graham Simpson

Therefore, essentially, UK Government decisions would impact on this gap.

Public Audit Committee

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Graham Simpson

Therefore, it has gone up from 8 per cent to 13.6 per cent.

Public Audit Committee

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Graham Simpson

Therefore, basically, more people are getting ADP than were getting PIP.

Public Audit Committee

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Graham Simpson

The report looks at performance data and client feedback. You suggest that the process seems a little bit—this is my word—woolly. Is it fair to say that it is not detailed enough?

Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Graham Simpson

Jeremy Balfour mentioned the situation that we had during Covid. Members who were here in the previous session will well remember that, just around the corner from this Parliament, there was a guy who used to sleep on a bench every single night in all weathers. When Covid came along, he did not sleep on the bench, because we managed to deal with rough sleeping. That shows that, if there is a will, it can be done.

I have had a similar experience to Mr Balfour. On my walking route to work in Edinburgh, I, too, see examples of rough sleeping—people who have clearly bedded down in alleyways or makeshift shelters—and I am seeing that increasingly.

The intent behind all the amendments in the group is something that we should aspire to. As I said earlier. it is probably not possible to completely eliminate rough sleeping, but all that Jamie Halcro Johnston’s amendment 237 says is that ministers

“must take reasonable steps to ensure that ... there is no rough sleeping”.

It is reasonable, as are the other amendments in the group.

Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Graham Simpson

Pam Duncan-Glancy has launched a really interesting amendment, but, unless the title deeds state otherwise, it could allow a situation in which very few people—for example, six out of 200—actually turn up to a residents meeting but, according to her amendment, a majority, which in this case would be four, could vote to change the factor. I am sure that Pam Duncan-Glancy does not want that sort of situation, so does she accept that that would be a bit ludicrous?