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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 June 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Graham Simpson

Mr Rennick, you said that the take-up of the 1,140 hours of provision has been high. How many children are getting 1,140 hours?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Graham Simpson

The number may have been stable up until now, but clearly there is a warning that it may not be stable in the future and that nurseries could close.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Graham Simpson

Absolutely. It is a choice for parents. What is the number of families who are taking up the 1,140 hours?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Graham Simpson

Mr Rennick said he had two figures. Eleanor, are you able to give us the figures for what was spent before and what is spent now?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Graham Simpson

Should that not have been put in place before you rolled out the policy? That is the point, isn’t it?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Graham Simpson

Yes, convener, it is the same point really. Essentially, you are saying that we had a policy under which two-year-olds could access 1,140 hours but we had no way of letting their parents know about it.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Graham Simpson

Let me quote Jonathan Broadbery, who is the NDNA’s director of policy and communications:

“Our members are telling us they have serious concerns about the sustainability and their ability to continue delivering funded early learning and childcare places. Our research into funding rates that providers are receiving from their local authority is not encouraging. Only three have increased their funding rates sufficiently to allow nurseries to be able to pay their delivery costs and we need to see the differential funding rates between council and partner providers addressed.”

If that is not addressed, we could see nurseries closing, could we not?

Meeting of the Parliament

Climate Cafés

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Graham Simpson

I congratulate John Swinney on securing his first members’ business debate in a very long time, and I thank him for educating me today. I came into this debate not really knowing what a Climate Café is. I assumed that it is an actual cafe but, of course, it is not. It can be a series of local projects or forums, as Mr Swinney said, that address environmental concerns. I see behind me in the public gallery a number of people who are, I assume, involved in the movement.

Having come into the debate not knowing very much, I thank the Climate Café for sending members a briefing and outlining some of the really good projects that are around. One that struck me was one that Mr Swinney mentioned, which is the HEAT Project in Blairgowrie and Rattray, which gives direct energy-saving advice to more than 700 households in Perthshire. That seems to me to be a really good example of how the Climate Café movement can work.

I accept that the movement started in Perthshire, but it has expanded and has gone beyond there. We had Climate Cafés at COP26 in Glasgow and there is one in Aberdeen. I see from the briefing that there is one in Oregon and that there are others elsewhere in the world.

Having started off as a bit of a sceptic who thought that the idea seemed to be a bit vague and woolly, I find myself warming to it. If the Climate Café movement wants to get in touch with me with a view to doing something in Lanarkshire, I would be glad to hear from it.

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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Graham Simpson

Auditor General, you have spelled out quite a number of stark statistics. The first of those, which you set out in the key facts section of your report, is that about one in four people experiences mental health problems in any given year. Given that we have already discussed the difficulty of getting data, how do we know that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 28 September 2023

Graham Simpson

We cannot really say with any certainty that, in any given year, one in four people will suffer mental health problems. That would mean that, in this room, perhaps three or four people will suffer mental health problems this year. I just do not know how we could possibly know that.