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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

Which is fine, as long as you do not state that one of your aims is response to local community demand. If it is a policy decision that this must happen, that is up to the Scottish Government, but you cannot then say that it is because the community supports it, I would argue. It reeks a bit of George Orwell’s “1984”. Ian McKinnon, would you like to come in?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

On the definition of a national park, do the witnesses in the room think that the people of Galloway understand what is being presented, and is there a clear vision of what a national park would be? Wrapped around that question, what formal processes have NatureScot or the Scottish Government conducted to date?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

Where was the hub?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

It strikes me that it would be beneficial for the Scottish Government, via NatureScot, to come up with a vision that provides the detail of the Galloway national park that would allow communities to make a decision. It sounds as though communities are being asked to sign a blank cheque for something when they do not know how it is going to impact on them. The concept of national parks could be different for different people, and therefore people’s assessments with regard to whether or not they support a national park could be radically different. It seems that, as it is envisaged, the consultation process will not allow communities to come to a conclusion on any of that. In some ways, asking for the level of local community demand for something when people do not know what something is, is an impossible task. Do you have thoughts on how to square that circle?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

Thanks. To finish off, Denise, what would be your top three concerns around a new national park in Galloway?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

There are two parts to the issue. The first is that the Scottish Government said that the creation of any new national park should be in response to local community demand. I would assume that the Scottish Government and NatureScot would deliver a balanced view of a national park in order to ascertain whether there was local community demand for it. For example, they could set out the economic benefits but say that the proposal would lead to a lot more footfall and litter, as we have heard. Was it presented in that way? What has the process been so far? Have NatureScot and the Scottish Government organised community meetings or social media campaigns?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

Thank you. Mhairi Dawson, I have a final question for you. From a land management and farming perspective, are there potential benefits to farming and crofting as a result of the new national park, based on your discussions with NatureScot?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

From the evidence that we have heard so far, it strikes me that perhaps the starting point in all this is to have a definition of a national park and what it should achieve. For some people, it might be a pristine landscape without any land management, in which case, biodiversity will undoubtedly reduce. Loch Lomond and the Trossachs clearly has lots of tourism—Loch Lomond Shores has amazing facilities to attract tourists—but then the national park did not want more tourists to go there. Before we get to the stage of presenting to the people of Galloway, we need a starting point as to what we are presenting.

Nick Kempe has touched on this, but, based on the two existing national parks, is there an adequate definition of what a new national park might look like and what the experience would be for both visitors and local residents?

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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

One of our other petitions is about what are colloquially referred to as pylons. We have heard that that consultation basically said, “These are coming, so there’s no option here.” I know that the formal consultation period for the park has not started yet but, from what you have seen so far, has the consultation been framed in a way that says that the national park is coming and that the options are, in essence, about what the boundaries will be?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

Mhairi Dawson, we have heard that there is not a clear understanding of what NatureScot and the Scottish Government propose for Galloway and that the consultation process thus far has been inadequate. What is your assessment?