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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

I look forward to the update that will be published in January, as it will clear up all those issues for us. Many thanks for your answers.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

We have mentioned the reserves position before at the committee, and we have probably asked you about this, but we cannot seem to agree what the indicators are. We have categories such as contingency funds, earmarked, unearmarked, committed and not committed. There is a myriad of terms that, frankly, we struggle to understand, so we do not know where the various bits of money that local authorities have tucked away are and what they will be used for. I have probably asked you this before, Jo, but do you think that we will get a clearer picture and an agreed set of criteria for that stuff?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

Do you know whether many councils are deploying that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

We can perhaps follow up on that if we get an opportunity later.

I come back to the audit function. You mentioned a few times that the Audit Commission in England was disbanded in 2015. How much may that decision have led to the problems that the English councils in particular have faced? We know that audit has not disappeared—the audit function is prevalent at every level of local government. Why, therefore, when the Audit Commission disappeared in 2015, did that lead to the circumstances that we have discussed unfolding in England? Alternatively, would you say that it had nothing to do with that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

That was a really thorough explanation, Abdool. While you were giving it, I was wondering why the internal audit function in Woking, which was mentioned in a previous example, did not wake up earlier to the prospect that it was about to go £2 billion into the red. What was happening there?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

I do not want to pick on poor old Woking, but were that council’s financial stability indicators not ringing alarm bells during the process of racking up a £2 billion pound deficit? Did it have any indicators that might have alerted it to that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Willie Coffey

Professor Roy, do you have anything to add to that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Willie Coffey

When you complete your journey, could we get a video of you put on Home Energy Scotland’s website, to tell everybody how successful you have been?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Willie Coffey

I will drag us back to heat pumps for a wee moment. Murdo Fraser led some questions on heat pumps and why we are significantly off track, for which there are probably a number of reasons. When I talk to my constituents, they tell me that the quality of the information that they get is not enough and that they do not get assurance. The cost of heat pumps is a factor, because electricity is much more expensive than gas. There are a number of reasons why people are not making the switch, despite reasonable efforts to put grant money on the table.

What do you think will prompt a significant transition, particularly in private residential homes in Scotland, where persuading people to make the shift is still a huge problem? Could Scotland’s councils play a role in that? I think that a House of Lords committee made that recommendation. I could not imagine quoting a House of Lords report in the Scottish Parliament, but it could be sensible for Scotland’s councils to take a leading role, if they were able to do so. People might trust advice from their local authority, particularly if they were involved in the transition process. What key ingredients would ramp up the transition to heat pumps on the kind of scale that we really need if we are to get anywhere near the standards?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Willie Coffey

That is fantastic.

I have a more general question about the regional impact of the just transition. How do we watch out for the regional imbalance being negative in some parts of Scotland? Professor Bell, you talked about where in Scotland the jobs will be and how we will monitor that. Is there a risk that parts of Scotland could be left behind because of the journey that we are making? How do both Governments make adjustments to ensure that that does not happen and that everybody can share in the journey to net zero?

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