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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

One question is whether, if the committees of the Scottish Parliament were to do more of that, there would be a concern about witness fatigue. You would be going back to people who were involved as you went through the legislation; there might be a concern about going back to them. Do you have any thoughts on that, Meg?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

I have been hoping that someone would raise the matter of directly elected chairs—you almost did earlier, Sir David. We are talking about how the committees get increased self-confidence and higher levels of esteem, potentially paired with financial payment for convenerships. Currently, our conveners do hugely hard work and get no financial reward for it. Do those two things, which happen at Westminster, help the committee structures to have that increased esteem in the eyes of the public and the media?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Thanks very much for that. It was really helpful.

The last area that I will focus on is the impact of scrutiny and audit work, which we have touched on a couple of times. Gemma Diamond, to start the discussion on audit scrutiny, will you give us Audit Scotland’s experience of evaluation work?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

I have a quick follow-up on one of the answers that was given to Maggie Chapman.

Tricia, when you were asked about red flags, you said that cybersecurity, finances and student numbers were all red flags. When did student numbers become a red flag?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Was that the first time that student numbers became a red flag?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Were you happy with that significant aspect? You were being told that a reduction in income was expected—a reduction that turned out to be even worse because some of the decisions about where to take international students from were riskier than those taken by other universities. Did it not seem unusual not to have that person at the court?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

I am not a member of the committee, but I think that it will be keen to see the workings.

It is really important that the independent investigation is genuinely independent. You have said in your answers that it is not for you to say who should be on the list. I get that, but the list of folk should be extensive and it should include all the senior executives. Some names have been mentioned. I am sure that Baroness Alexander and Lord Robertson will have something to contribute. A lot of folk who are in senior management are not here—some are still involved, and some are not. I am not pointing any fingers, by the way, but we need to have a full understanding of how the university has got to where it is.

I hope that the committee will have sight of the inquiry’s terms of reference so that it can be confident that the inquiry will genuinely look at the things that our constituents are concerned about and give an independent assessment so that the university does not get into such a position again. That will be crucial to getting to a point where we continue to have a world-leading research and academic institution in my home city, which is so important to everyone.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

We would appreciate the workings and how you got to those figures. Those are big numbers that are being bandied around.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Just last year?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

I want to go back to the point about who was able to attend the court. One of the big issues relates to international students, so was the VP for international students allowed to attend the court, or was there no reporting on that?