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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 August 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

I want to make a point on the Jeremy Hunt situation. A huge effort has always been made in Scotland, particularly by Governments, to make sure that, if a minister leaves the Government, space is left between them and the policy area that they handled in Government. In spite of the tight numbers, we have managed to do that in Scotland. It is perhaps a lesson that we could pass on to Westminster—the lessons go two ways.

You touched on remuneration. It might be easier for me, as someone who is leaving the Parliament, to say this, but there is a disconnect in that we have conveners who do a huge amount of extra work in the role that is not appreciated—they get no remuneration for it. It is not about the money; that is not why you become a politician. Most folk in our Parliament would earn more doing whatever they were doing before they were elected, so it is not about the money. However, if you are a committee convener, you have to do extra work but are not remunerated, whereas, if you take another path—as a junior minister, a minister or a cabinet secretary, for example—you are remunerated. Would remuneration make our committee structures more effective and give the conveners the esteem that they deserve?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Cristina, do you have any thoughts on that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

I add my thanks to the individuals who wrote in and to all the constituents and other folk who have contacted me personally in my role as a constituency member. I have had representations from people with differing views. All of that is really helpful as we look through the evidence and make a decision on what is a really important matter. Thanks to them all.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Earlier, Brian Taylor touched briefly on post-legislative scrutiny. Can you give us your thoughts on how some of what Audit Scotland has learned might help the Parliament in that respect?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

I have been hoping that someone would raise the matter of directly elected chairs—you almost did earlier, Sir David. We are talking about how the committees get increased self-confidence and higher levels of esteem, potentially paired with financial payment for convenerships. Currently, our conveners do hugely hard work and get no financial reward for it. Do those two things, which happen at Westminster, help the committee structures to have that increased esteem in the eyes of the public and the media?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Thanks very much for that. It was really helpful.

The last area that I will focus on is the impact of scrutiny and audit work, which we have touched on a couple of times. Gemma Diamond, to start the discussion on audit scrutiny, will you give us Audit Scotland’s experience of evaluation work?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

One question is whether, if the committees of the Scottish Parliament were to do more of that, there would be a concern about witness fatigue. You would be going back to people who were involved as you went through the legislation; there might be a concern about going back to them. Do you have any thoughts on that, Meg?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Were you happy with that significant aspect? You were being told that a reduction in income was expected—a reduction that turned out to be even worse because some of the decisions about where to take international students from were riskier than those taken by other universities. Did it not seem unusual not to have that person at the court?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

I have a quick follow-up on one of the answers that was given to Maggie Chapman.

Tricia, when you were asked about red flags, you said that cybersecurity, finances and student numbers were all red flags. When did student numbers become a red flag?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Was that the first time that student numbers became a red flag?