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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 7 November 2026
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Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

You have provided a very specific example. Can you give me a concrete example of how we use public service reform to stop that situation from happening?

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

I will bring you back in later, if I can, Mr Fagan.

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

We are running late, but not at the expense of scrutiny. To give members a steer, that means that we may have to carry over the time to consider in private the evidence that we have heard. However, I do not want to stifle scrutiny, which is more valuable than that.

12:00

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

Feel free to contact us more formally in relation to some of the aspects around that if you wish, Ms Jones.

It has been a long evidence session. I thank all our witnesses, not just those who are here in person but David Phillips, who has had to depart, for joining us online. It has been very helpful. Please do follow our scrutiny on an ongoing basis. We will now suspend briefly while we set up the room for the next panel.

11:09

Meeting suspended.

11:14

On resuming—

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

I see that several of our witnesses want to come in. I will bring in David Phillips first, and then come to Victoria Carson and Jayne Jones.

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

Before I bring in Joe Fagan to explore our final theme, do you have anything to ask on this area, Paul?

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

If witnesses have time, we will run this session up to 12.40 pm, then that will be us for today. I am conscious that chamber business starts at 1.30 pm.

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

The only other thing that I want to do is to remind people that, at our next meeting, which is on 24 September, the committee will continue to hear evidence on its pre-budget scrutiny inquiry for 2027-28, with two further panels. Our final pre-budget evidence session will be with the Cabinet Secretary for Public Service Reform and will be on 1 October.

With that, I again thank our witnesses, and close the meeting.

Meeting closed at 12:46.

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

Thank you for putting that on the record. We will move on to more specific questioning.

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

Who is that question to?