The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 1 May 2024
Christina McKelvie
Yes, and MAT standard 1 is about same-day intervention, which is a huge change.
I see that Dr Priyadarshi is nodding, but I do not know whether that is because he agrees with me or because he has some experience to share.
Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 1 May 2024
Christina McKelvie
It is worth hearing about some of the international evidence around synthetics, the challenge that they pose, the fact that they are now being mixed with other substances that people do not know about, which means that people do not know that they have contaminated substances, and the fact that they are 50 to 500 times more powerful. My gentle argument back is that we have to be prepared for that coming down the line. We need to be very aware of what has been seen in the rest of the world.
In my first week in this role, I took part in a round table on synthetics with colleagues from Canada, New York and Ireland, and I heard about the actions that they have been able to take to tackle synthetics in the supply chain, and about how dangerous such situations can be. That is one of the reasons why the drug-checking facilities and the national hub will become very important. We will be able to see that coming in, which will enable us to pivot towards an alert system—indeed, I think that Public Health Scotland has already used such a system to alert people that something is not safe, and that they should therefore check it out or be safe when they administer it.
I also hear that there is synthetic opioid contamination of benzodiazepines and that people who are shifting to those substances do not realise its presence or its impact. There is also a shift whereby people are moving to injecting cocaine, which brings with it a range of health issues. In addition, we do not have a naloxone for stimulants: there is currently no treatment for stimulants, so there is a huge amount of work to do there, too.
12:00I am taking quite a broad approach, but it might be that we are seeing that because synthetics are in the news and at the top of everyone’s agenda right now, and because they pose such a threat. I am alert to that, but it is not my experience here. Work is on-going in all the other areas. We are hearing from stakeholders about how behaviour is changing, how issues are being dealt with and how we can intervene, either through those stakeholders or with other services.
Synthetic opioids are a big threat, which we must not downplay, but I give a commitment that we are looking not only at that threat but at all the other information. The toxicology results and all the rich data that we get from NRS in the summer will give us some indication of what has been happening in the past year. The RADAR results are telling us that benzodiazepines and cocaine are playing a bigger part than they used to.
I will ask Alison Crocket to come in, because she takes part in lots of international work and has long experience. She may be able to give you an overview of the global picture and how we are using that to inform the work that we are doing here.
Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 1 May 2024
Christina McKelvie
I asked the Minister for Crime, Policing and Fire about that a few weeks ago, and he said that he would look into it. We expect that a site visit will be arranged and that there will be other back-and-forth about the facility. We would like it to happen now, but I suspect that it will take a wee while, especially for the site visits. However, we hope that, once one application has been passed, the others should be academic, in a sense, albeit with the same rigorous quality control over whether all criteria for operating a site have been met.
Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 1 May 2024
Christina McKelvie
Sorry—I did not hear the last bit of your question.
Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 1 May 2024
Christina McKelvie
The argument will be that there is never enough money going in. From my perspective, I can say that, since I came into the role, there has been a 67 per cent increase in Scottish Government funding to ADPs and other support agencies. That tells you that there is a commitment to drive more money into the system to ensure that we get the outcomes that we all want. Last year, there was record funding of £112 million for ADPs. The allocations for budgets are being set now, and the First Minister has said publicly that this budget is protected.
We have seen increased funding coming into this budget, and we have seen the impact of that. We are about to see more than 100 additional residential rehab placements coming into play very soon. We have also seen an investment in the workforce, resulting in the addiction worker traineeship, whose graduation ceremony I attended the other week, and the work that the Scottish Drugs Forum is doing around that, along with the work that the Scottish Recovery Consortium is doing in prisons and communities. I want to see those organisations funded well. In a really difficult funding situation, I will fight that corner in Government, but I repeat that we have seen a rise in funding and we have seen that commitment.
Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 1 May 2024
Christina McKelvie
We have already done that. I can make sure that the committee gets that report, which was published at the end of last year. It contains the results of our audits of where funding went to, particularly around services such as residential rehab and other services, and it addresses a concern about underspends and the way that we were able to allow underspends to go back into the system for the money to be spent on other priorities. We can get that report to you.
Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 1 May 2024
Christina McKelvie
Police Scotland, too, has learned from other parts of the world in developing its guidance on how it will protect local communities while ensuring that we do not put more barriers in the way of people coming and seeking support.
Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 1 May 2024
Christina McKelvie
I am really hopeful about the drug-checking facilities, which I think will give us real-time data on what is happening in local areas. We will also have the national hub, which will be sited between the University of Dundee and Ninewells hospital. It will allow further analysis to be done so that we have a real and deep understanding of the issue. It is one aspect of how we understand what is in the system.
I was in Aberdeen on the day when the people up there submitted their licence application to the Home Office. At the moment, there are two drug-checking facilities—a postal one called WEDINOS, which is based in Wales, and another in Bristol—and they have experience of the process and how tricky and complex it can be. We are certainly leaning a lot on our friends in other parts of the UK, and our officials have excellent working relationships with Home Office officials. I should also say that the criteria were designed not just to tackle that complexity but to ensure that whatever we do is within the law and allows us to maintain the restrictions of the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971. That challenge aside, the determination to do this has resulted in many organisations working together.
Siting the facility with an existing service that already provides other support will mean that people will not just get checked but will also be exposed to all the other support that is available to them. That is the Aberdeen model, which I think the convener will be very interested in. It is certainly worth taking some time to visit and speak to the people in that facility. As I said, they were the first to get their application in. It took a long time for them to meet all the criteria, but their application is now in. The Dundee application has gone in, too, and Glasgow’s application is imminent—it is being worked on right now with Home Office officials and the people who deliver for Glasgow. The facility will give us results within minutes on whether a substance is more dangerous.
As I said, though, the facility is only one pathway by which a person can be exposed to all the services that are available. There are other intervention points that we can use to offer people support. It is important that people can make an informed choice and get the right advice. In that way, consumption rooms become part of the whole system, because someone who comes in might be told, “That doesnae look that safe—that’s the advice we’re giving you.” The point is that they will be somewhere safe where, if they take the substance and have a reaction, they will be looked after. That is incredibly important because, again, this is all about harm reduction and reducing drug deaths.
It is all multilayered. There is the practical stuff—that is, what people need to know to make the decisions that they need to make, and to give them the confidence to make such decisions—and there is the data and analysis aspect, which will allow us to understand whether the profile of what we are seeing in the system is changing. If we suddenly see an increase of something very dangerous in the system, Public Health Scotland and other organisations can, as they have done once before, put out an alert to everybody on the front line so that people can be supported, know that there is something in the system that is potentially 500 times more powerful than their usual thing and be told how dangerous it is. There are different reasons why these facilities are good things.
Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 1 May 2024
Christina McKelvie
We have looked into that; my predecessor in the role looked into it. Some festivals have managed to do it. The Home Office is pretty rigid, but we are working with it. Mobile units at big events could be a life-saver for some people, so my mind is not at all closed on that, but there are challenges in the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, which makes it really difficult for that to happen. We have some experience of organisations asking to do it, but the situation is pretty rigid.
Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 1 May 2024
Christina McKelvie
Given that we set the MAT standards, we want everybody who accesses the service to get that service at the highest quality, and we want people to be informed about the choices that they have. The MAT standards are included in that. I mentioned mental health and dependency, and there is a specific MAT standard to tackle that issue. We are working closely. The advice that I was given by both previous ministers in the role was to keep driving up the MAT standards and make sure that the budget is protected. Those were two very good pieces of advice to me as I came into the role.
We published in 2021, and work is going on across the board to drive up the standards, not just in health but in all services. It is really a way of pushing forward the idea that the issue is one of health and it should be treated as such, and that people should have a high quality of service. It is a bit of a change for people who deliver the services—particularly in health boards—as regards how we increase all the standards in the way that we want to and give people the choices that they need in order to make the right decisions for their health.
We are also applying the MAT standards to justice settings. In relation to the points that Russell Findlay made earlier about what is happening in prisons, I add that we have prison to rehab, which is covered by the MAT standards as well. We hope to make sure that everyone is covered.
Great progress has been made. There is a great diagram that allows me to see immediately where we are. It shows red, amber and green statuses. Much of the work is coloured green or amber, so real progress is being made, particularly on MAT standards 1 to 5. Progress is also being made on standards 6 to 10. There are some challenges, particularly in rural areas and areas where there is a high incidence of issues that we need to face. However, I see things moving on quite markedly now, and I see, hear and understand that when I meet people. They understand it, too.
When I was in Blackburn on Monday, I was asked whether the health improvement, efficiency, access and treatment—or HEAT—targets do not work well with MAT standards under a trauma-informed approach. I will take that point away and look at it. It might be that we have frameworks or standards that do not quite work well together. I will consider that to see how we can use the MAT standards to push things forward in a more modern way.