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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 September 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Colin Beattie

Did they work?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Colin Beattie

It seems that there was some conflict in the information that CMAL and FMEL were producing—one was rather more optimistic than the other. How were the issues dealt with when they were escalated up the line to the PSG, Transport Scotland and so on? What interventions were made to try to resolve what had become a contract dispute?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Colin Beattie

Given the different claims that were being made, it is clear that dispute management or resolution—whatever we want to call it—should have been used. I think that there was an option for that in the contract, but it was never exercised. Why?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Colin Beattie

That sounds a bit odd to me, but let us move to the interesting stuff: the money. The Scottish Government gave loan support to FMEL outside of the payments under the contract. What was the rationale for and purpose of those loans? Were any conditions of note attached to the loans? If so, were they adhered to? How was the success or otherwise of the loans assessed?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Colin Beattie

Yet, at the point of nationalisation, there was no sign of any results from that money—not just the loans, but the staged payments. The Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee’s report “Construction and procurement of ferry vessels in Scotland” makes it clear that those staged payments seemed odd, because some were done out of sequence just in order to hit a target, but bore no relation to the progression that should have been in place for constructing those vessels. That is more than evident from their state when nationalisation took place. Given the concerns that were raised by that committee, what happened at nationalisation? You took over hugely incomplete vessels—a few million pounds of steel here and there—but £128.25 million in total has been poured into the yard, and there is nothing to show for it.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Colin Beattie

Did the nationalisation allow you to take over the historical books of FMEL?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Colin Beattie

I mean FMEL.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Colin Beattie

When CMAL escalated an issue to the PSG, was that a bit of a waste of time, then?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Colin Beattie

The PSG was chaired by Transport Scotland—in effect, Transport Scotland owned that group. It is unclear to me how Transport Scotland’s responsibility to advise ministers in any formal way is established—between the PSG, which it chairs, and the Scottish ministers. I say again that the Auditor General indicated that ministers were updated on issues only on an ad hoc basis. When Transport Scotland formally advised Scottish ministers in February 2017, target dates and milestones had already been missed.