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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 January 2026
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set up to deliver climate change goals”

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Colin Beattie

I just want to put something in here. The Auditor General’s report also identified key challenges in workforce capacity and capability, and said that climate change is competing with other areas for funding and staff. How are you addressing that?

09:30  

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set up to deliver climate change goals”

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Colin Beattie

Again, I am conscious of the time, but let me briefly ask you about the Auditor General’s report. The report talks about the Cabinet sub-committee on the climate emergency and states that the role of the Cabinet sub-committee is “unclear”. What role does the Cabinet sub-committee play in the Scottish Government’s governance and risk arrangements for net zero targets and adaptation outcomes?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set up to deliver climate change goals”

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Colin Beattie

Can you summarise in a very brief sentence what its key function is?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set up to deliver climate change goals”

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Colin Beattie

Why is that not clearer? I refer to the Auditor General’s report.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set up to deliver climate change goals”

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Colin Beattie

I have some specific questions, but I would like to ask a more general question to begin. A lot of the work that the Scottish Government has done with regard to climate change is fairly well developed. A huge amount is being done on that side of the balance sheet. The other side is how you are going to afford this. Where is the money coming from? In another committee meeting, one of the witnesses referred to a wall of private finance, because clearly the Government does not have all the money that is needed to effect that. That wall of private finance must be tapped into. It must be shown that there are viable projects that will give a good return on investment. How are we tapping into that and communicating with that wall? Are we doing it through the United Kingdom Government or directly? How are we going to be competitive, particularly against the rest of the developed world, which will be looking for that same money?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set up to deliver climate change goals”

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Colin Beattie

Was there any logic behind not producing minutes and meeting informally?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set up to deliver climate change goals”

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Colin Beattie

Informally.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set up to deliver climate change goals”

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Colin Beattie

Let us move on to another governance issue. The Auditor General made multiple references to gaps in climate governance linked to adaptation in his report and in his evidence to the committee on 18 May. What progress is the Scottish Government making on addressing gaps in governance and capacity linked to climate adaptation, ahead of producing the next climate adaptation programme?

Public Audit Committee

Written Authority: Completion of Vessel 802

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Colin Beattie

Okay. Well, as I said in the debate:

“Governments are judged by what they do, not by what they say they do”.—[Official Report, 8 June 2023; c 75.]

I thank the cabinet secretary for giving evidence. It is greatly appreciated that you have done that yourself. I also thank Colin Cook and Kate Hall for joining you.

We will now take a short break to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

09:56 Meeting suspended.  

09:57 On resuming—  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Policy Priorities (Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy)

Meeting date: 10 May 2023

Colin Beattie

People with private capital will only come in if there is reasonably managed risk and they get a return on their money. Given the highly speculative nature of some of the initiatives that are under way—we are still dealing with emerging technology, for example—how will we derisk things? Moreover, derisking means not that the risk is eliminated but that it moves somewhere else. Would that entail the Scottish Government taking on additional contingent liabilities?